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Old 10-20-2009, 12:59 AM
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What motor setup are you using?

Ok heres the thing, i have a bone stock '98 prelude, The only thing that has been changed is the 5speed swap we did about 2months ago. Other than that it is stock. I just want to know what kind of motor swap you guys have on your 5th gens because sooner or later i am going to have to do one myself. I know there are several motors out there that are possible candidates to doing a complete swap, but i just would like to know what you have and what benefits have you seen from it after doing the swap. And i know there are other threads that are similiar to this however, im asking for your opinion and based on the popularity of a certain motor swap i might just turn to that.

These are the possible motor swaps:

JDM H22

JDM H23

K20

as for turbo or n/a i really dont care, im just trying to compare benefits of each motor.

i have researched each one to the fullest extent, understanding how each one works and what can be done to it, but i am still unclear about which one would better suit the daily driver, weekend drag strip agenda. Yes i understand the benefits of each motor but they are so mixed that it is hard to choose, so i am asking for straight answers not just the biased reactions of others. so please be straight forward. thank you

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Re: What motor setup are you using?

Here is nothing wrong with your USDM engine. I would keep it and rebuild it.

An H22 is the best engine for your car without going through a lot of headache.

You know what your engine has been through and when you rebuild it you know that it is fresh and will have plenty of life in it. Do some more research to fid out what is more DD friendly.
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Re: What motor setup are you using?

Hmm, I got's a H22a4....with 12:0:1 Compression pistons on it!
A JDM head with a white cover ^_^
An ebay intake (the stock system sucks!)
DC headers,
And guess what....it's rebuilt, and its BEAST!!!

So my verdict.....Keep your H22, the biggest mistake would be a k20 cause it has nothing to do with the lude, it would suck!
I would just rebuild your's while upgrading nice little goodies....(preferably Greddy goodies ^_^)

But yea, H22 FTW!
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Re: What motor setup are you using?

the pros and cons to both, it is easier and more cost efficient to make power with boost, but not as fun imo. i would rather have an all motor beast that would poop on boosted setups. but the more power you make the less reliable a car is going to be. N/A is a hard long road to travel with the H22 bc it does not respond to addons like other engines do. you need to figure out what your goals are and what kind of money you plan to spend.

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Hmm, I got's a H22a4....with 12:0:1 Compression pistons on it!
A JDM head with a white cover ^_^
An ebay intake (the stock system sucks!)
DC headers,
And guess what....it's rebuilt, and its BEAST!!!

So my verdict.....Keep your H22, the biggest mistake would be a k20 cause it has nothing to do with the lude, it would suck!
I would just rebuild your's while upgrading nice little goodies....(preferably Greddy goodies ^_^)

But yea, H22 FTW!
sorry to tell you but your stock intake probably performed better than your ebay intake, and that dc header is garbage. its an exact replica of the stock header but its ceramic coated. you have to pay to play and buying cheap **** is not the way to pull power out of an h22. please tell me you resleeved the block before you put 12:1 pistons in it.
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So my verdict.....Keep your H22, the biggest mistake would be a k20 cause it has nothing to do with the lude, it would suck!

that's why the K-series is the most responsive to bolt-on's and modifications, cuz it sucks


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But yea, F20C FTW!
Fixed it for you.

Jk, do not attempt an f20c lol
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Re: What motor setup are you using?

h22a and do the h22a transmission LSD.
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h22a and do the h22a transmission LSD.
I'm a little confused by your comment. Are you telling him to get the JDM H22A w/ 5-spd equipped with ATTS or are you telling him to get the JDM H22A engine and Quaife LSD and pop that baby on his current tranny or what?

He should also know that if he plans to push over 300hp he will shorten the life of his LSD/ATTS if he chooses to opt for that.
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Re: What motor setup are you using?

^I think he means m2b4... stock h22 LSD... they are nice :)

I know you can get mounts to put a k24 (torque, aftermarket, likes boltons!) in a 4th gen, right? if you want to be different look into that... otherwise I agree a rebuilt is probably the way to maximize what you get for your money... if you plan on staying basically stock.. maybe a fresh h22/h23 would be good.. but if you want to go crazy on internals, rebuild is the way to go...

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Re: What motor setup are you using?

Cheap fast reliable....u can only have two. I have a 4th w/the G22 setup. Its a monster but it has its bugs. H22 is a strong motor n has many MANY aftermarket options as to any kind of build u could want. There's an abundance of parts for it. As stated by others tho do it right ya kno. Rebuilds the way to go for sure if ur lookin for a good bit of power. Mines in the shop now for a rebuild lol. U may need to spend more money in the short run but it will def save u long haul. Measure twice cut once. As for turbo VS N/A search the forum there is a ton of threads on both n debating each. GL have fun. Keep us posted =)
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Re: What motor setup are you using?

I'm using the jdm h22 with the boots options lol

Jdm closed deck is better for boost than the usdm open deck h22.
The K20 is a great engine but u have to be at maaxuim balla status to afford it and be happy. And if u do this u might as well do the frankenstein k20/k24 setup..If its even possible with the lude..
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Re: What motor setup are you using?

ive ridin in and drivin a few all motor b-series civics and a built all motor h22 accord (iron sleeved, suposedly 11-1 comp pistons, skunk2 stage 2 cam/valve/springs, on hondata ?) and i can easily say i appreciate all motor more than boost. dont get me wrong boost is sick. besides everyone loves a good BOV but i feel N/A is completely lag free.

N/A all day. :) IMO
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sorry to tell you but your stock intake probably performed better than your ebay intake, and that dc header is garbage. its an exact replica of the stock header but its ceramic coated. you have to pay to play and buying cheap **** is not the way to pull power out of an h22. please tell me you resleeved the block before you put 12:1 pistons in it.
Ehh....Actually With my bigger throttle body, the stock was crap...I got's an ebay intake, but an HKS filter (off my cousins GS-T hehe)....but it's gone now....I got some random one now :/

The DC Sport's headers were free ^_^....they kinda came with the swap....sooooo....Free>stock....hehe

And yea the block was resleeved, and I didn't do any of it (sadness, I love to work on engines) but a shop did it, and it work's like new, and since this is my sister's car, she need's reliable power, and this engine is beautiful!

Just throwin' it out there!

P.S.....what Intake would be good?....I'm looking into it.....

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that's why the K-series is the most responsive to bolt-on's and modifications, cuz it sucks


yea ok buddy.

Well....I never meant the K20 is bad...:/
I just meant the fact that it has nothing to do with the prelude, so it would suck as a swap.....as in it won't be a prelude anymore in my opinion.
I mean I know I'm like the only one who thinks this.....buuuut, I like swap's like...umm
Ex. My 2000 Si I had, I made the b16 into a b18, and put nice bolt on's on it....
I would never put a k20 into a civic.....just cause it wouldn't feel right (civic as in 99-00)

But then again....like I said....that's just my opinion...k20 is nice....just not my choice to swap into a prelude!

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Fixed it for you.

Jk, do not attempt an f20c lol
haha, I actually have to agree!
But...yea....let's stick to FWD here haha
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Re: What motor setup are you using?

thanks for all the responses guys. im most likely going to do a rebuild on it. any suggestions of crankshafts, pistons, and any other internals and where to get them?
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haha, I actually have to agree!
But...yea....let's stick to FWD here haha
You can make an f20c fwd with the adapter plate they make to use the k-series transmission..

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You can make an f20c fwd with the adapter plate they make to use the k-series engine.
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You can make an f20c fwd with the adapter plate they make to use the k-series transmission..

Hmm, I thought they would have something like that, it's cool to know that they do!
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ive ridin in and drivin a few all motor b-series civics and a built all motor h22 accord (iron sleeved, suposedly 11-1 comp pistons, skunk2 stage 2 cam/valve/springs, on hondata ?) and i can easily say i appreciate all motor more than boost. dont get me wrong boost is sick. besides everyone loves a good BOV but i feel N/A is completely lag free.

N/A all day. :) IMO

I don't have a BOV on my boots! lol

I love the sound and feeling of all motor honda's too.. I miss my old prelude

Lag is overrated!
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