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Ground Wire For Amp

Im sorry if this belongs in the I.C.E. sections, but I need answers from some 5G guys. For those of you who have installed systems into your car, Where did you ground your amp? (Pictures would be awesome)
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Make sure its to bare metal. But I did mine under the carpet in the trunk just took a grinder to it. A very known misconception is bolting a ground wire to paint. Big mistake
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Re: Ground Wire For Amp

i sanded it down but maybe not enough
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i sanded it down but maybe not enough
what grit? Id use 80 to take down the paint but then go to like 150 or 180 to smooth it out.the best way is to grind it smooth. then use a Dye to make threads, Unless you got some self tapping screws.Just make sure its really tight when you bolt/screw it down.I run 2 gauge ground and a 4 gauge power its safer :D so dont use that 8 gauge bs

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My amps are mounted to the back of the rear seat, and the gound wires would be less than 1ft long. Same thing, sanded back the paint to bare metal, and bolted in. There's a few holes already in areas like the seat mounting and the bulkhead you can use.
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Re: Ground Wire For Amp

I prefer a small steel brush on the drill. Then I use a self tapping screw with a star washer along with a well crimped terminal on the wire. Just make sure you arent drilling over the gas tank. As long as the ground doesnt move at all and is secure, any problems are most likely elsewhere...Grounding shouldn't require too much effort to get done properly. Sorry I dont have any pics, just make sure the metal you are grounding too is indeed the actual chassis and it is nice and shiny after sanding/grinding.
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My amps are mounted to the back of the rear seat, and the gound wires would be less than 1ft long. Same thing, sanded back the paint to bare metal, and bolted in. There's a few holes already in areas like the seat mounting and the bulkhead you can use.
below the seat bracket or on it?
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On it. I think. I did install the gear nearly 4 years ago...
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On it. I think. I did install the gear nearly 4 years ago...
Ergh not the best place to do it but I guess Does your battery die quicker than normal?
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Re: Ground Wire For Amp

I took out the rear seat and mounted it where there was a screw already. I didnt sand anything down, and it all works.
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I took out the rear seat and mounted it where there was a screw already. I didnt sand anything down, and it all works.
lol of course it works Grounding your amp is a safety for your battery we call that a floating ground what you did..

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lol of course it works Grounding your amp is a safety for your battery we call that a floating ground what you did..
Yeh the amp wont turn on without a ground.
ppl have written that they grinded the area where they put ground lead to.. How come? is the way i grounded the amp wrong???
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Ergh not the best place to do it but I guess Does your battery die quicker than normal?
How would that cause the battery to die quicker? If it is a "bad" ground, no electricity will be occupied by the circuit in the first place.

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Yeh the amp wont turn on without a ground.
ppl have written that they grinded the area where they put ground lead to.. How come? is the way i grounded the amp wrong???

By grinding the paint away, the terminal actually makes contact with the chassis of the car. Paint is not a conductor and will block a solid connection to the ground. Sometimes you can get lucky and the threads on the screw securing it provide enough coverage to where the circuit is completed.
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How would that cause the battery to die quicker? If it is a "bad" ground, no electricity will be occupied by the circuit in the first place.




By grinding the paint away, the terminal actually makes contact with the chassis of the car. Paint is not a conductor and will block a solid connection to the ground. Sometimes you can get lucky and the threads on the screw securing it provide enough coverage to where the circuit is completed.
Lol my bad talking on the phone and typing a post kind of effs me up ^_^ but what I meant was of course your battery will die quicker since you added an amp and blah blah blah parasitic drain basically, but this is if you ADD on any new equipment to a car.
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gotcha...parasitic drain is pretty rare for amps these days. It was always a rare case when that happened and usually a quick fix.
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What about grounding on the either the rear window heater or the Honda built in amp? Both are under the rear shelf and both have their own earths.
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What about grounding on the either the rear window heater or the Honda built in amp? Both are under the rear shelf and both have their own earths.
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i for sure have a good ground it has to be! I even put two washers on a screw and put the ground between them for a guaranteed ground. I got it to the point to where when I'm on accessories and it wont buzz and i can listen to music but when i start the car it sounds like the motor is playing through the speakers
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Re: Ground Wire For Amp

oh you have engine noise. Let me guess, a loud whining sound that matches with the throttle?

Engine noise is can be tricky to solve but normally it revolves around faulty or low end equipment. First off, is this amp for your inside speakers or for a sub? What brand stuff are you using? How good of quality are your signal wires? For a novice, it may be easier to take it to a shop and let them troubleshoot it. Otherwise all you can do is retrace your steps to look for faults.
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i did all my wiring myself, the amp is for the inside speakers and I am using rockford fosgate speakers all around. I might try something different then the walmart wiring kit.
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i did all my wiring myself, the amp is for the inside speakers and I am using rockford fosgate speakers all around. I might try something different then the walmart wiring kit.
Well there's your problem! Get some high quality RCA's with proper shielding, make sure you run them on the opposite side of the car than your amp's power wires.
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Re: Ground Wire For Amp

Yes those are the ones I use as test RCAs when troubleshooting amps..I would try to avoid using them for actual use. It sucks that engine noise can be a brutal fact of life.

I was going to ask how you have your primary power setup as well? Going to the battery? Fused properly? What gauge cable is it?
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Yea its going to the battery and fused properly. I forget which gauge but its a decents size pretty big but i have seen bigger
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What brand amp? I am wondering if your car's engine/tranny/alternator or battery are not grounded very well and it is causing feedback. I would place my bet on the RCA's for now though. Engine noise is a horrible, horrible thing. Also make sure any RCA connections are taped up possible b/c the junction points can pickup noise as well.
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Psh...engine noise is awesome just tell everyone its a turbo...jk I was gonna chime in on this but Mdtdnb you got a frim handle on this...suppose my info is not needed.
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Everyone has different experience, and a different outlook on things. The more info the better I say!
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Re: Ground Wire For Amp

I had someone check it out yesterday and they said they believe it is the RCA cable also, where is a good place to get a good set of RCA's. I just see way to many websites with prolly the same **** pair i have, an suggestions to a certain pair or a trusted website would be awesome
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Re: Ground Wire For Amp

I always get mine from a specialist car audio shop. While some places sell the same product, I just prefer to go to a specialist, and not some place that specialises in car audio. And home theatre. And digital cameras. And computers. And video gaming. And CDs/DVDs. You get my point.
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