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99 lude ss auto project !!!!

OK I know this sounds crazy, Im doing a full head rebuild port and polish and all skunk2 internals and pro2 cams. 350 rc injectors skunk2 intake manifold and skunk2 70mm throttle body. as far as the bottom end goes Im only replacing the oem pistons with jdm type s pistons, I dont want to spend money on re-sleaving the block. the only mods Im doing to the tranny is a levelten tourque converter. Im going to tune with apexi vafc2 or apexi neo. Im doing this on a ss auto because my buddy told me its impossible to run 13 flat with a ss auto with out breaking the tranny. I know the ss tranny is weak and it sucks I dont want to hear any of that because I already know that!!! I want to know whats needed to get this lude to run 13 flat with out guttin it out N/A only I dont want to hear anything about FI. knowledge on how to get a good tune will be greatly appreciated. by the way Im new to this forum stuff. LETS GO PEOPLE LET HEAR SOME GOOD STUFF!!!
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What kinda engine are you doing this to? For an h22 you dont need to do alot of this...
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Re: 99 lude ss auto project !!!!

try looking into the euro r IM from rosko racing http://www.roskoracing.com/Bolt_On_Euro_Manifold.html

also being that your staying auto check out Greddy's e-Manage Ultimate...its supposed to be good with auto trans.
http://www.greddy.com/products/displ...SubCategory=47

just a fyi im pretty sure every other person, if not everyone, is going to tell you that you need to do a 5spd swap first or at some point in your build.
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Re: 99 lude ss auto project !!!!

i dont want to be mean here.... but i hope your tranny breaks after you get the 12.99 so you can show your friend whose boss!
and so i can laugh my ass off!
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Re: 99 lude ss auto project !!!!

blake hasn't even hit 13-flat with his fully built H23vtec, on slicks, and 5 speed.
sooo.... good luck lmfao.


i'd be very surprised if you even broke into the 14's. very surprised.
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Re: 99 lude ss auto project !!!!

partyman, Im doing all this to a h22a its the engine that came with the car. Mister noob is this euro R IM beter than the skunk2 ? I dont know to much about IM's and also when I tune with one of these little computers what ever they are called? how the hell do I know Im tuning right? I dont know anything about tuning. I just know how to put an engine together. also I already have a 5spd just not dropping it in till I blow up my SS trying to find out how much it can handle.
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blake hasn't even hit 13-flat with his fully built H23vtec, on slicks, and 5 speed.
sooo.... good luck lmfao.


i'd be very surprised if you even broke into the 14's. very surprised.
twokexlv6coupe theres a guy on honda-tech hes running mid 13's with his SS auto. he hasnt done as much work as Im doing so touching 14's is going to be cake. right now I have a v2 intake megan racing head with a moded collector 2.5" tanabe catback and vtec control. Im runnin under 16 high 15's not fast but its a start.
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i dont want to be mean here.... but i hope your tranny breaks after you get the 12.99 so you can show your friend whose boss!
and so i can laugh my ass off!
lol I hope it does I already have a 5 spd to swap it out with, I just mainly want to find out how much I can get out of this b4 blowing up the tranny... I mean there no point in getting rid of it untill its broken, right
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Re: 99 lude ss auto project !!!!

o god i can't wait for the "i blew my engine up" thread right after you finish building your motor, cuz you didn't tune it right.

tuning is NOT something you can do yourself (especially after just reading that last statement), you leave that to a professional! that is the lifeline of your engine.
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What kinda engine are you doing this to? For an h22 you dont need to do alot of this...
partyman, Im doing all this to a h22a its the engine that came with the car. Mister noob is this euro R IM beter than the skunk2 ? I dont know to much about IM's and also when I tune with one of these little computers what ever they are called? how the hell do I know Im tuning right? I dont know anything about tuning. I just know how to put an engine together. also I already have a 5spd just not dropping it in till I blow up my SS trying to find out how much it can handle.
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partyman, Im doing all this to a h22a its the engine that came with the car. Mister noob is this euro R IM beter than the skunk2 ? I dont know to much about IM's and also when I tune with one of these little computers what ever they are called? how the hell do I know Im tuning right? I dont know anything about tuning. I just know how to put an engine together. also I already have a 5spd just not dropping it in till I blow up my SS trying to find out how much it can handle.
im still trying to figure out if its better. i was just providing another option. Im on the same boat about tuning. And any tuning should be done by a pro. I guess you buy it and someone experienced tunes it....Let me know how much the SS can handle(sadly im SS too).
Here is some info on the IMs...
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twokexlv6coupe theres a guy on honda-tech hes running mid 13's with his SS auto.
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is this euro R IM beter than the skunk2 ?
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got proof??

i'm calling BS
Im not going to do the tune myself, Im going to take it some where I just dont know any tuners. relealize one thing money is no issue in this build so if the tranny or engine blows then so be it thats what its all about. I see you're in the nj lude club I used to live in nj and I only knew one good tuner named YOSOLO I dont know if you're familiar wit the name... on the other hand Im going to try to find the link to that post on hondatech.
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im still trying to figure out if its better. i was just providing another option. Im on the same boat about tuning. And any tuning should be done by a pro. I guess you buy it and someone experienced tunes it....Let me know how much the SS can handle(sadly im SS too).
Here is some info on the IMs...
http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php...ntake+manifold
http://www.preludepower.com/forums/s...d.php?t=270167
I'll deff keep you updated Im not affraid to blow the car up I have another car...Im here to go hard, at the end of the day the goal here is TO DESTROY THE SS TRANNY!!
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[QUOTE=Francelh22a;328833]Im not going to do the tune myself, Im going to take it some where I just dont know any tuners. relealize one thing money is no issue in this build so if the tranny or engine blows then so be it thats what its all about. I see you're in the nj lude club I used to live in nj and I only knew one good tuner named YOSOLO I dont know if you're familiar wit the name... on the other hand Im going to try to find the link to that post on hondatech.[/QUOTE

Then you should sleeve the engine, forge rods and pistons,upgrade ur fuel system, get a turbo kit from treadstone or turbokits.com, maybe upgrade the intake and TB wit skunk 2. If you still have money you can do the valve train, cam gears and w/e else. Why run 13's when you can run 12's,11's or even 10's haha if its wroth doing its wroth over doing. I have my hp goal at 700 to the wheels and i should run high 9's wit that. If you have any qestions just pm me. Ik my h22a's
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Then you should sleeve the engine, forge rods and pistons,upgrade ur fuel system, get a turbo kit from treadstone or turbokits.com, maybe upgrade the intake and TB wit skunk 2. If you still have money you can do the valve train, cam gears and w/e else. Why run 13's when you can run 12's,11's or even 10's haha if its wroth doing its wroth over doing. I have my hp goal at 700 to the wheels and i should run high 9's wit that. If you have any qestions just pm me. Ik my h22a's
only problem with that is he wants to stay n/a lol
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lol well that could be a prob.... lol WHY N/A??? lol
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Tuning with just a VAFC is going to cause your motor to crap out on you quick, I won't knock you ideas but you really need to look into getting a full stand alone tuning system.
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Re: 99 lude ss auto project !!!!

The reason Im staying N/A is because I want my build to be N/A. If my buddy would of never told me "its impossible to run 13's with a ss tranny" I would of just put in my 5spd and and started building my engine to run 12s. Im not trying to go to the track and compete, once I blow up the ss tranny trying to get 13's we will find out how much it can handle. besides I know every one here who has a SS is excited that some one is willing to break their tranny to support the forum. basicly Im going to fully build the engine but the bottom end is only getting the type S pistons. once I blow up the ss tranny, and put in my 5spd I can get a odb1 ecu and get it tuned. but untill then its going to be tuned with a vafc or something like that if the motor craps on me so be it. H22a's aint hard to find.
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got proof??

i'm calling BS
heres the link to the guys timeslip and posts he ran 14.89 and ultimately ran high 13's not mid that was my fault. the tranny finally gave up on him.

http://www.superhonda.com/forum/f146...ed-roll-64093/

heres some other post of SS ludes breaking 14's with a 75shot of zex

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Well get the type S pistons which i think are 11:5. Shave the head, pnp, 3 angle vavle job, BC N/A cams stage 2 i think would work fine...,aem cold air intake, upgrade fuel system, DC headers,... different ecu would help.... cam gears... I hate N/A builds cuz you have to get all the lil things right and upgrade all the lil things... You need to go to a good tuner if you want to run 13's, the tune will have to be perfect.. with all this i dont even know if you will hit it..
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DC headers
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as if we don't say it 100x a day on here....

Your stock header is the best one unless you look into getting a Hy Tech or the RMF header... or wait for the bisimoto header.

and... Francelh22a, You don't want to spend the money to resleeve the block??? wtf that is one of the most important things you can do when building an engine for power... And since you are obviously going N/A you will be better off with the Euro R manifold.

You need to have a custom tuned ecu specifically for your car not some stupid crap done with a cheap programmer.

Instead of starting a thread and just throwing together a random parts list do some research... go through sticky threads and google like a motha ****a.

If you don't do some serious thinking and in depth studying you will be waisting every dime you put into this car. DO IT ONCE DO IT RIGHT!


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If you don't do some serious thinking and in depth studying you will be waisting every dime you put into this car. DO IT ONCE DO IT RIGHT!

thats what the guy with a budget will do. according to him, it seems he doesnt.....personally im too broke to even have a budget,for now, lol. so im definitely doing some serious thinking and in depth studying before i spend a dime.
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Re: 99 lude ss auto project !!!!

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ARE YOU ****ING KIDDING ME??????



as if we don't say it 100x a day on here....

Your stock header is the best one unless you look into getting a Hy Tech or the RMF header... or wait for the bisimoto header.

and... Francelh22a, You don't want to spend the money to resleeve the block??? wtf that is one of the most important things you can do when building an engine for power... And since you are obviously going N/A you will be better off with the Euro R manifold.

You need to have a custom tuned ecu specifically for your car not some stupid crap done with a cheap programmer.

Instead of starting a thread and just throwing together a random parts list do some research... go through sticky threads and google like a motha ****a.

If you don't do some serious thinking and in depth studying you will be waisting every dime you put into this car. DO IT ONCE DO IT RIGHT!



well I havent found hy-tech or any 4-1 header for a 5th gen lude, but I went to the track tonight and met up with a dude that owns a shop called "east coast performance" in north carolina after seing him break 9's, its obvious he knows what he is doing. He says he makes custom headers and tunes hondas. as far as the stock header goes,I got rid of it when I got my megan racing header. now to the sleeving issue, Im not re-sleeving untill I find out how much power I can get out of the type S pistons. I think alot of people here would like to know that since not every one has the money to re-sleeve. import tuners feb 2009 issue, type S pistons and port polish head valvetrain upgrade,pro2 cams and a few other things it was about a 5 grand build, 248.8 whp 181.2 torque. do your research then talk about re-sleeving. also if you read the whole post you would know that I am going to get a tuned ecu once I blow the ss and throw in the 5spd.
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Re: 99 lude ss auto project !!!!

ok, I just ordered a skunk2 pro 70mm throttle body, moving onto the IM do we all agree the euro R is the best way to go with N/A set ups?
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Re: 99 lude ss auto project !!!!

[QUOTE=Francelh22a;329182] do your research then talk about re-sleeving. QUOTE]

Im pretty positive he knows more than u do. Especially after everything you've said. I doubt you've done any research if you was planning on using a dc header and tune your build wit a vafc. I honestly think that u just read that import tuner and u wanna copy they're build and u think its just gonna be so easy. Sounds 2 me like u need 2 do a whoooole lot more researching buddy.
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Re: 99 lude ss auto project !!!!

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do your research then talk about re-sleeving. QUOTE]

Im pretty positive he knows more than u do. Especially after everything you've said. I doubt you've done any research if you was planning on using a dc header and tune your build wit a vafc. I honestly think that u just read that import tuner and u wanna copy they're build and u think its just gonna be so easy. Sounds 2 me like u need 2 do a whoooole lot more researching buddy.
ok I never said Im using a DC header, that was a suggestion from another member, I said Im tuning with a vafc because I obviously cant go odb1 and tune a ecu while I still have the SS tranny,read the whole thread I dont doubt he knows more than me thats why Im here asking around, I threw in the import tuner issue as proof that high horse power is possible with out re-sleeving. also if some one has done something and it worked I dont mind doing the samething, I dont call it copying its only a guarantee.
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Re: 99 lude ss auto project !!!!

Im ready to buy an IM give some feed back on the euro R vs. skunk2 IM.
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Re: 99 lude ss auto project !!!!

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read the whole thread
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Im ready to buy an IM give some feed back on the euro R vs. skunk2 IM.
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ya, its supposed to be better for n/a applications
there you go. and btw, tell your friend he is a **** and do a proper build, and learn how to respond on forums, you sound like a moron
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