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I have a 98 vtir prelude and ive noticed that the crank shaft pulley wobbles on idle. When you rev the car, the pulley straightens itself up. Can anyone help with this problem, or has anyone had this problem occur on their lude?
It seems that the crank shaft itself is not bent.
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Re: Prelude crank shaft pulley wobbly

is the bolt tight???
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is the bolt tight???
Yes the bolt is definetly tight. The timing belts where changed when i bought the car and the bolt was tightened at that time. This is how i noticed the problem.
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Re: Prelude crank shaft pulley wobbly

well you are going to have to remove the pulley. If you keep driving it, the pulley will eventually fall off.

you need to remove it and inspect the key way and make sure there is no damage to the timing assembly.
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well you are going to have to remove the pulley. If you keep driving it, the pulley will eventually fall off.

you need to remove it and inspect the key way and make sure there is no damage to the timing assembly.
Do you think that its the key way which is damaged or something more serious?
I bought a second hand pulley and replaced it, but i had the same result. Still wobbled.

I might have to leave it off the road for now untill i get this problem sorted but its my daily drive, i dont want to create more damage to it though.
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Re: Prelude crank shaft pulley wobbly

this is a common problem w/ h motors.... after awhile the crank pulley backs itself out. i know of at least two members on this site that has had this happen in the past 6 months. now you said you put another pulley on??? and it still wobbled ??? is the bolt cross threaded into the crank?? you might have to rethread the crank.
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Re: Prelude crank shaft pulley wobbly

You might have put the pully on slightly off or they warped somhow.
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this is a common problem w/ h motors.... after awhile the crank pulley backs itself out. i know of at least two members on this site that has had this happen in the past 6 months. now you said you put another pulley on??? and it still wobbled ??? is the bolt cross threaded into the crank?? you might have to rethread the crank.

YUP, i had the same problem, so i swapped to another used harmonic bal/pulley and it was okay....is it possible the second hand pulley you put on was bad also?
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Re: Prelude crank shaft pulley wobbly

Yup, same thing happened to me 6 months ago. I had to replace the crankshaft pulley (it isn't a harmonic balancer, just a pulley) and keyway (it was stripped). I'm not too sure how, but the balance shaft locked up too and my mechanic said he would have to do like 10x more labor to fix something that wasn't essential to my vehicle's function. I had him remove the gear on the balance shaft so that belt could be replaced. So now I got the "balance shaft delete" mod 4 free, lol. But I do miss it, occasionally my car shakes when I begin to accelerate from a stop (happens 1 out of 100 times), it makes me nervous.

Edit: Oh yeah, my point was that your keyway is probably stripped like mine was. Just a thought.
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Re: Prelude crank shaft pulley wobbly

Yes im hoping that the second hand pulley was bent as well.
But it didn't occur to me that the keyway could be stripped. Ill have to check this out first as a few people have posted that their keyway got stripped.
I just checked to see if the pulley is becoming loose as i drive the car but it seems like it hasnt gotten lose.
Ill check it out and let post out the result.
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Re: Prelude crank shaft pulley wobbly

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Yes im hoping that the second hand pulley was bent as well.
But it didn't occur to me that the keyway could be stripped. Ill have to check this out first as a few people have posted that their keyway got stripped.
I just checked to see if the pulley is becoming loose as i drive the car but it seems like it hasnt gotten lose.
Ill check it out and let post out the result.
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It will if it goes unchecked for too long.
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Re: Prelude crank shaft pulley wobbly

Did some calling around to find out if anyone knew what the problem is. It turns out that the h22a motors are common for having the crank shaft wobble.

This is what i had been told from a Honda wreckers who do mechanical repairs as well.

Bought a second hand pulley, new keyway and bolt from a Honda dealer ($130). Going to replace the parts next week. Hopefully it will fix the problem but from what i've been told, it should be all normal once the parts are put on. Hopefully :p
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Re: Prelude crank shaft pulley wobbly

Hey guys
I changed the parts. Put the new keyway, second hand crank shaft pulley and new bolt. Started the car up and there was still a slight wobble but almost perfect. After say 2-3 days its back to normal wobbling a lot.
Can anyone help. i dont know whats wrong with it anymore.
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Re: Prelude crank shaft pulley wobbly

this happened to me.. i've been told by more than a few shops that it does internal damage to the crank.. i just said F it and bought a new engine.. gonna pull my old one and have it rebuilt to be sure.. good luck with your issue
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Re: Prelude crank shaft pulley wobbly

i got the same problem.new pulley and key was better still not 100% then 2 days later wbble just like before.ive got outside opinions everything from warped crank to install error.think im just gonna swap the engine.although when i looked at the inside of the old pulley it was chewed up in the grooves were worn away like it wasnt sitting right.i bought the car like that and thought a new pulley would suffice....what a pain.my buddy is parts mgr at a honda dealer.he said hes never herd of the prob and in twenty years of honda parts dealing never seen a defective pulley.idk
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i got the same problem.new pulley and key was better still not 100% then 2 days later wbble just like before.ive got outside opinions everything from warped crank to install error.think im just gonna swap the engine.although when i looked at the inside of the old pulley it was chewed up in the grooves were worn away like it wasnt sitting right.i bought the car like that and thought a new pulley would suffice....what a pain.my buddy is parts mgr at a honda dealer.he said hes never herd of the prob and in twenty years of honda parts dealing never seen a defective pulley.idk
Yeh its a pain, i seriously dont care about the wobble anymore. Ill drive it as it is and if the motor stops (which it wont) ill change it.
I really dont wanna change the motor though, so its the last thing ill do.
Does your car make a noise when its hot on idel because of the wobble? Im not sure but i think my car makes a slight noise because of that wobble and it annoys the **** out of me
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Re: Prelude crank shaft pulley wobbly

Haven't read any posts on here but I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM! I didn't think anything about it and raced a integra and the bolt actually came loose. Had to fix it, in a parking lot. I put a H22A pulley in it and put thread lock on the Crankshaft pulley bolt. It wobbled the first few days but it is not moving anymore. Wait for it to fall off and put a new key in there and thread lock, my 2 cents.
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Haven't read any posts on here but I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM! I didn't think anything about it and raced a integra and the bolt actually came loose. Had to fix it, in a parking lot. I put a H22A pulley in it and put thread lock on the Crankshaft pulley bolt. It wobbled the first few days but it is not moving anymore. Wait for it to fall off and put a new key in there and thread lock, my 2 cents.
Ive changed the harmonic balancer (2nd hand good nic) new keyway and new bolt and it was a little better, still has a wobble to it. After that i said **** it and i dont worry about it anymore. I wish mine was like yours.
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Re: Prelude crank shaft pulley wobbly

Hey everyone, I'm new here. First and foremost thanks for having me. My 2001 Prelude Type SH is also having a problem with the crankshaft pulley being slightly wobbly. Has anyone found a definite fix. Mine isn't bad, but I'd like to take care of it right away. Any suggestions? Again, thank you very much. Here's a video of it before I got my valves readjusted (ton of top end noise): Jake's 2001 Honda Prelude SH Crank Pulley Wobble - YouTube
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Omfg I haven't been on this forum in 4 years. My prelude got stolen in 2012 hahaha I got the notification in my email and was like wtf! Haha. Idk dude I thread locked it and it worked fine.forgot to mention when mine came off I was throwing a 75 shot on it. God this post brings back memories!!!!
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I'm sorry to hear that man. Did you buy a new one and then thread lock it or just thread lock the one you had?
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Thread locked the one I had man. Worked fine. Maybe replace the key as well with a oem one. Tighten that bitch down good and tight to.
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Hey there brand new myself and have a99 base that has had the same issue among other things. The first shop wouldn't touch as they said the bolt was stripped and thought I would need a "machine shop" right out the gate( large conglomerate nationwide company). I found and ase cert mechanic to replace the balancer in turn adding the timing, water pump, oil sending unit, rack and pinion, and outer/inner tie rods to complete my lovely bill and glad to have it done. After struggling to remove the old one the crank bolt was truly damaged and required re threading the crank so the new bolt was sure to thread true. Still had the wobble and they purchased another balancer, swapped them out and no change so back to the new honda manufactured balancer from first install and off I go. The wobble has been reduced greatly and heard only at 500 rpm and the annoying cabin noise is just that ...only in the cabin. At 157k I suppose riding it out until funds are avail to replace motor with better. I am not expecting perfection but the words harmony and balance kinda dictate perfection in themselves. Thank you for sharing any insight as I am no mechanic just truly appreciate this car.
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It's gonna wobble some. That's why it's called a balancer. They all wobble some. The older the engine,(as in operation hours) the more unbalanced it has become. The more wobble you have.
Even balanced and blue print engines have a bit of wobble as it dampens out vibrations.

I suppose if it was called vibration dampener it may be understood. But then the acronym would go from HB to VD, which could lead to further misundertanding...

Now try raising your hood adjuster bushings and see if the cabin noise disappears. Many times that adjustment clears up a bunch of sounds inside the car that resonate through the hood and into the cabin.
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Thank you so much that's the first confident peace of mind I have had in months! Sorry took so long to give appreciation I am a bit challenged with this new forum and my ability to navigate. The noise in the cabin is from the balancer at around 500 when idling up it completely disappears. I will check out the bushings though first thing tonight and see what I can come up with.
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Mandolin's rule.

I plucked some KISS songs back in the day.

I figure on a 12 string accoustic when I'm too old n give out for stuff like working on cars, dancing with my wife and that type thing. Maybe a ukelelee(?spelling?)

One day I saw my son's crank pulley on his 91 B21 all quivering back n forth and thought "oh snap, that's bad".. We shut the car off, checked the bolt and it dawned on me 'it's a harmonic balancer..sometimes they quiver'...
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Re: Prelude crank shaft pulley wobbly

Hey prelude fam my crankshaft pulley started wobbling and I had put it back together tighten up the belts and when I drove it for like a mile it came off again. I had bought a new crankshaft pulley and keyway for it but haven't installed. Do you think that's what I need? And what's the things called that you insert the pulley into. Some say the lil tooth where the pin goes into. Please help me with some advice or info.
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