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Old 09-17-2009, 01:53 PM
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Shifting without clutch

Would it be bad to take the gear out of shift without pressing on the clutch in between the 2 -3 rpm "neutral zone"? Neutral zone meaning when there is a time frame when your gear can come through (if timed correctly) without grinding.
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Re: Shifting without clutch

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Let me see if I understand you correctly...

Are you asking if it is ok to take the car OUT of gear without hitting the clutch?

Yeah, you can pull the car out of gear without hitting the clutch without hurting anything... but why would you want to?





Are you asking if you can put the car INTO gear without hitting the clutch?

I wouldn't recommend it lol...
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Old 09-17-2009, 03:06 PM
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Re: Shifting without clutch

you can put it into gear with no clutch but the rpm has to be perfect to the speed u are goin.....its called rev matching....

just use the clutch lol
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Re: Shifting without clutch

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you can put it into gear with no clutch but the rpm has to be perfect to the speed u are goin.....its called rev matching....

just use the clutch lol
Real rev matching is when you tap the gas when downshifting so that your engine speed comes up to the proper rpm, and then you can pop your foot back off the clutch without the horrible deceleration you would normally get. But yeah, same idea...



Anywho, you don't wanna shift with no clutch man, that is a recipe for worn gears and sheered metal inside your transmission casing.
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Re: Shifting without clutch

my buddy did this all the time in his teggy w/ no negative effects. and he just sold the car a month ago w/ 160K miles, and that thing was more reliable than the moon.

but the possibility of something going wrong was too great and scared me enough to never do it.
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Re: Shifting without clutch

If you have to ask the question, you probably don't need to be doing it...
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Re: Shifting without clutch

if you mean powershifting, then yes you can. but like other members said, it's probably not that good. just push in the clutch lol
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Re: Shifting without clutch

I used to do it all the time. I would stick my foot out the window and shift gears getting on the highway and ppl would be like WTF. HAHA! that was back in the days of my rex. RIP 2002 Buggeye. You shall be kept in the faint distance of my preludes rearview @ all times.
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Re: Shifting without clutch

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if you mean powershifting, then yes you can. but like other members said, it's probably not that good. just push in the clutch lol
yep, powershifting is the more common name. I've also heard rev matching but either way, same deal.

It is not GREAT for your car but if you do it CORRECTLY, it is not bad. It is simply allowing the engine and transmission to contact and synchronize without the use of the clutch and flywheel's friction plates. There is a natural point when they match and if you do it properly, the momentum/torque (whatever you want to call it) of the transmission will literally pull the linkage into gear. 3rd to 4th has always been easiest for me with hondas and with the slightest bit of pressure, it will automatically pop in to gear at an exact point.

I actually recommend everyone at least know how to do it from 2nd through 4th gears because it is a wonderful backup/contingency if your clutch disc wears out and is slipping. Powershifting got me around town for about a week in my old accord when my clutch crapped out.
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With about 10 years combined experience driving vehicles with 10+ gears.. I find myself occasionally shifting without a clutch.. there is no harm at all, unless you are constantly missing.
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Re: Shifting without clutch

thanks for the input...in reality i just needed to post a thread in order to view another thread and was thinking of a question that was never put onto threads...but hey, maybe this will help the others know about shifting without the clutch
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