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Old 08-08-2009, 07:41 PM
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Rebuilding a stronger automatic m6ha

Ok, I own an 98 automatic prelude, laugh at me all you want I wont swap it for a manual. I am just too tired of shifting gears into the dense traffic of my city and plus I work on delivery with manual cars 40 hours a week so that is enough for me. My tranny is slowly starting to fail and I am going to rebuild it.

Now, I know that the newer 00 and 01 prelude tranny had change to make them better. But they still fail sometimes. So I was looking around to build it better and stronger with aftermarket parts and I found this : http://www.levelten.com/SearchResult...8&Redirected=Y

This looks pretty good to me any people here have any experience with them?

I would use their torque converter and their rebuilding kit and have it install by a preffesional shop where I am from.

Do you think that would solve the problem and make the tranny more reliable? Because it would make it stronger and maybe loose less power than with an oem rebuilt one.

Should I had anything more? Maybe the uprage honda did for the 00/01 too.
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Re: Rebuilding a stronger automatic m6ha

hey man, if you happen to go this root def let me know maybe ill do it to my auto tranny on my 00 base so i dont have to beg the wife to let me swap my tranny lol also do a dyno to see if you gain anything from it. good luck and hopefully one of the more knowledgible PZ members will help you out soon
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Re: Rebuilding a stronger automatic m6ha

i got a aut also
let us know if this works bro
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Re: Rebuilding a stronger automatic m6ha

To be honest mate, I've never heard of anybody rebuilding their auto trans with any amount of success. However I'll admit most either swap in a second-hand one from a junkyard (which may or may not have been looked after in it's previous life) or just swap to a 5-spd (which is my personal preference, but I note you've already said you don't want to, and it's your car/money so we have no place telling you that you should).

It sounds alright to me. Keep us posted on how it goes mate. Cheers
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Re: Rebuilding a stronger automatic m6ha

As good of a plan as this sounds, I honestly think it would be cheaper to just drop in a manual trans in the end. Pulling the trans, opening it up, fixing it, putting it back in, you might as well go manual you know?

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Re: Rebuilding a stronger automatic m6ha

One thing is for sure auto trans are pretty complex to rebuild. As long as you have faith in the shop you bring the trans to i'd say do it. This is definetly not an area to cut corners when it comes to labor price and mechanic skill. I say skill because thats exactly what is. There are people who "can" rebuild trannys, and there are people that do "nothing but" rebuild trannys. I had a 97 camry in my former life( it seems like) that the tranny had been rebuilt like 4 times due to S***ty parts and above all S***ty mechanics.
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Re: Rebuilding a stronger automatic m6ha

Well, the rebuild kit is like 500$ and the torque converter is like 500$. I will drop the tranny myself and bring it to the shop. So this will make me save on the labor work. There are verry good rebuild shop near where I live, they usually rebuild muscle car automatic tho... I will go and ask them how they feel about my prelude one.

Since there is a lot of shop that imports jdm engine and tranny in Montreal, it would be really easy to find a manual for like 700 ca$. But I called them and they did not have any front clip right now so I would be stuck with only that. They could have one if I asked them, but not before december (their next shipment) and I am not sure it will last until then.

Now the big draw back is I was quoted a price of 3000$ only in labor time for the automatic to manuel swap, with the parts it would reach 4500$ easy, I bought the car for like 7000$, it just does not make sense to me...
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Re: Rebuilding a stronger automatic m6ha

I wish you stick shift guys would stop with put in a manual put in a manual the only reason you keep saying that is because no one knows how to hop up honda automatics !!! I have a 97 w automatic M6HA and this is a good transmission . I been hot rodding a long time with american cars now in love with my lude with jdm h22a 11-1 compression really awesome cars, anyway after MANY hours of research on line I have found a few good pieces of information ,and happy to share it with other lovers of automatic cars . 1st a automatic set up correctly will out perform 99% of the drivers on this planet you would have to be a professional -expert driver to shift without lifting your foot a little and that wont work well with nitrous and turbos , I know theres some macho mf reading this who can shift better than me and congrats to you , so HP clutch plates are fine and don't cost a fortune , but the real problem is shift programing / shift overlap
Honda did a EXCELLENT job with the sport shift on these cars and if you hold down the gas WFO (the computer adjust the shift to high performance mode) and hand shift the trans at torque/HP peak (high enough RPM"S so the motor still on the v-tec after it shifts) there's no slip a minimun shift overlap and my cars front tires scratch going into 2nd gear and would in 3rd if it had the power, heres the real problem a bushing on the 2nd gear clutch pack get loose on the shaft letting fluid leak past it causing the pack to loose pressure as it ages,the trans pump has to keep filling the piston behind the clutch pack continously to keep pressure on it soon it starts slipping and you lose clutch material now the piston must move farther with more fluid taking longer to fill and the shift takes longer and on and on ...however little known untill I found it burried in a article you can adjust the hydraulic pressure to the clutches on a M6HA from the transmission raise the pressure lower the slip and shift time without reprograming the transmission yep its no BS , how do you ask ? first i would do a little research on level 10 in some forums i did and no one ever writes about how great their new trans is Im sure they do lots of great work but i cant find it not to mention I don't have $4000.00 laying around , they do have a trans controller that looks really cool for 1300.00 bucks and some nice torque converters but they only use factory hard parts and I can do that !!! so for street use ill just rebuild the M6HA with new parts and raise the clutch pressure then install a 3700- 4000rpm stall converter and enjoy my 4.79 to 1 final drive ratio of the automatic and hast la vista (see ya later) manuelp.s. if you want to know more message me,steve

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