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Old 08-01-2009, 06:11 PM
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help with motor rebuild

I love my prelude bought new in 97'. Did the tranny rebuild at 140k. Auto
Let my girlfriend drive, love her too but doesn't ride like my lude does.
Engine overheated she freaked out tried to make it home and you know the rest of the story. Took spark plugs out and tried to start. Nothing but water.
Has compression so my dad says its the head gasket. Whatever it is I'm go'in inside complete teardown/rebuild. I don't really know what the best stuff to use is or any tricks some of you expirenced guys may know but if you could pass on any info/links that could help a fellow luder out much would be appreciated.
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Re: help with motor rebuild

Do you want to keep stock? If not then NA or FI?
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Re: help with motor rebuild

have no idea what your talking about but willing to do some add ons. nothing crazy like turbos or superchargers would buy or tranny swap before that. but if there is better pistons for reasonable price you know stuff for an auto. love my car and will probably have it forever so whatever I can do to make her better.
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Old 08-01-2009, 07:08 PM
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Re: help with motor rebuild

NA = naturally aspirated (built all motor like hot cams etc.)
FI = forced induction (superchargers and turbos)

If all you blew was your head gasket and you are sure of that then just pull your head, once off look down into the cylinder walls and see what it looks like, chances are they won't look too bad. Now Take your head into a good machine shop have them shave the head to get it back flush again, might have them look at the top off the motor as well. Get a good head gasket and replace the bad one. Follow the torque specs. If your cleaning and blowing out the holes then make sure you follow the correct torque spec.

If your girl ran it until the motor seized or close to seize you might be looking into a true rebuild and re honing the cylinders. Maybe a bore and oversized rings.

I once blew a head gasket in my Toyota Supra, but once I saw the white smoke coming out of the exhaust I shut it down right away. Hope your able to get it fixed soon, by the way my supra was an inline 6 and all the head cost me to repair was $150 for the head gasket and $200 to get the head machined (shaved) back on the road in less than a week.

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Re: help with motor rebuild

Well i have the H22A4 engine and i did a complete rebuild on it. The whole top end is all skunk 2 with cam gears and i put mahle forged pistons. My engine is gonna be ready soon and back in the car. I will let you know how it runs and what not.

Also it really depends how much money your willing spend on youe engine and like the other people said, are you going stock rebuild or wanting to build it up?

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Old 08-02-2009, 07:28 AM
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Well i have the H22A4 engine and i did a complete rebuild on it. The whole top end is all skunk 2 with cam gears and i put mahle forged pistons. My engine is gonna be ready soon and back in the car. I will let you know how it runs and what not.

Also it really depends how much money your willing spend on youe engine and like the other people said, are you going stock rebuild or wanting to build it up?

Good luck

Forged pistons? did you resleeve the block? FRM can be a biotch.
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Re: help with motor rebuild

No need to resleeve with Mahle pistons
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Re: help with motor rebuild

??? show me where it says you can use forged pistons with our FRM sleeves. Almost every motor build I have seen they all resleeved the blocks. Only ones that went FI they only went to 8 lbs on stock internals.

This is news to me.
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I would think you could get away with not sleeving, but for how long I'ts gonna last is negotiable... Better safe than sorry If you ask me. If I'ts not put back together yet I'd definitely re-think that.
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Re: help with motor rebuild

if you are not wanting to pour alot of money into the motor then just have the cyl walls checked along with the deck on the block and the straighteness of the head. put new rings on the pistons and new bearings on everything. then put all new gaskets in and put the motor back together. you should notice a difference by just rebuilding with stock parts. i would not try to raise the power too much with the auto trans. maybe just some stage 1 cams.

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??? show me where it says you can use forged pistons with our FRM sleeves. Almost every motor build I have seen they all resleeved the blocks. Only ones that went FI they only went to 8 lbs on stock internals.

This is news to me.
Mahle makes a gold series piston that has the same coating on it that honda uses so you can run them without sleeving. There have been many mixed opinions and occurences with these, so i am staying away from them.

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I would think you could get away with not sleeving, but for how long I'ts gonna last is negotiable... Better safe than sorry If you ask me. If I'ts not put back together yet I'd definitely re-think that.
NO NO NO the only pistons that you can run in an FRM lined block is ones that have the special coating on them. these are limited to OEM honda pistons or the Mahle gold series.
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Oh...I didnt know that...learnin somethin new everyday. Cheers.
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Re: help with motor rebuild

I thought I was somewhat right anyways.

So the Mahle gold series would work but not trusted?
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Re: help with motor rebuild

imo, they are a gamble. so i am going to be running type S pistons instead of the mahles. if money didnt matter and i had a choice then i would resleeve and run some JE's.
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