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LED break light problem on my spoiler

Weeeell i just noticed some of the led lighting isnt working on my spoiler when i break & i been trying to find sites to see if i can replace it.. but what a bitch to find lol
Dose anyone know any good websites to buy from?
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Re: LED break light problem on my spoiler

check your ground or 12volt wires coming from your spoiler?

do you have any testers you can use to see if your getting power from your 12 volt wire when you break
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Re: LED break light problem on my spoiler

Break: To render inoperable or ineffective;


Brake:
A restraint used to slow or stop a vehicle
Anything that slows or hinders a process.

Is the High School Generation really this stupid?????

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To answer your question, a large grouping of L.E.D.'s, as found in your third BRAKE light, are wired in series parallel configuration. What this means is that (depending on what size/current of L.E.D. it uses) they are wired at least three diodes in series and each of these groupings of three are parallell wired to the next set of three.

This is just one possible scenario to explain why only half of your L.E.D BRAKE lights work.
If just one of the wires are broken, in the parallel (+) or (-) lead, then the lights before the BREAK will continue to work, but nothing after it will.
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Break: To render inoperable or ineffective;


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Anything that slows or hinders a process.

Is the High School Generation really this stupid?????

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Re: LED break light problem on my spoiler

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Anything that slows or hinders a process.

Is the High School Generation really this stupid?????

SERIOUSLY!
Don't lump us all together now. Give me a brake!
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Re: LED break light problem on my spoiler

BRAKE********
Ooo, Why thank you for your smart ass remark lilmsprelude, Little mistake but i'll remember that next time though the information below actually helped me a little so that post wasn't all but a waste...but next time save your remarks for someone who cares this is a site is for helping & dedication to ludes which you helped at one point but save your thanks!

As for the grounds they are all good..for thinking after the break none of my lights are not working .. its not like that, its a patch of 5-6 lights that are out and then a couple work, then a couple more are out and the rest are all good so your theory of a broken wire and the rest of them being out isn't my situation.
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Re: LED break light problem on my spoiler

AAAAAAAaaaand your ignorance shines through, yet again, in another poorly designed rebuttal. If you don't want comments like mine, or any other, than DON't post in a PUBLIC Forum with your apparent lack of understanding of basic grammar. You were not the only one that failed to use the proper terminology.... but since you are the one that took offense...
You deserve my smart ass remarks for your lack of knowledge of the English language... I'm just saying...

And before you go spouting off telling me I don't know what I am talking about, you REALLY should do some research on how to PROPERLY wire multiple 3 Volt L.E.D.'s to use a 10 to 14.3 Volt Power source, ie: your 12 volt vehicle's electrical system.

I am sure in your perfect little world all things make sense and electrical engineers wire everything in perfect series/Parallel configuration.

Just to prove I am not a total bitch, I will give you a link to help you out.

There are MANY ways to configure L.E.D. array's. THIS is a very SMALL, and simplistic, example so you can gain a slight understanding of electrical theory.
Scroll down, if you will, to the middle of the second post.

with that being said.... I hope some of this information helps you. Because THAT is what I am here for.




p.s. (that would be a common abbreviation, of the term Post Script, which denotes an afterthought following primary textual content)
The proper term for those fantastic little lights is actually Light Emitting Diode; also known as; L.E.D.

Not led
Not LED
and NOT pronounced lead.....................

L.E.D.
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Re: LED break light problem on my spoiler

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But seriously,
It could be as simple as the L.E.D.'s went bad. They actually do have a certain lifespan (Even the ones that claim to not), even if it is usually much longer than regular bulbs. They're a bitch to replace, so you could do that, or if you have some extra money, shave it all off all together. That's under the assumption that you have the brake light in the back window so cops can't give you any trouble.

Then again, what LilMsPrelude said could very easily be the case.
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Weeeell i just noticed some of the led lighting isnt working on my spoiler when i break & i been trying to find sites to see if i can replace it.. but what a bitch to find lol
Dose anyone know any good websites to buy from?
I recently noticed a portion of the L.E.D. lighting on my third brake light, contained within the 'spoiler' on my car, was not working. I have been trying to locate a web site that sells this item but have had minimal luck.
Would any of the participants of this fine forum be able to assist me in my search?


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But seriously,
It could be as simple as the L.E.D.'s went bad. They actually do have a certain lifespan (Even the ones that claim to not), even if it is usually much longer than regular bulbs. They're a bitch to replace, so you could do that, or if you have some extra money, shave it all off all together. That's under the assumption that you have the brake light in the back window so cops can't give you any trouble.

Then again, what LilMsPrelude said could very easily be the case.
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To expand on my previous thought, and to endure your reply as well, the traces used on the very small composite " circuit board" are subject to breakage simply due to the environment they exist in. Vibrations, heat, cold, and just day to day use is enough to damage a trace, resistor, or a lead, as in the anode or cathode side of the L.E.D., the finite leads in/out of a resistor, etc.

And since these ARE wired in series first ( Four 3 Volt L.E.D.'s wired in series mathamatically would be 3V*4 = 12V - the 'ideal' operating voltage for the automobile environment) it then makes perfect sense that on of, oh, say, 500 tiny little wires/contacts could possibly go bad. This resulting in a bank, or parallel series of L.E.D.'s to appear to stop working.

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Break: To render inoperable or ineffective;


Brake:
A restraint used to slow or stop a vehicle
Anything that slows or hinders a process.

Is the High School Generation really this stupid?????

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To answer your question, a large grouping of L.E.D.'s, as found in your third BRAKE light, are wired in series parallel configuration. What this means is that (depending on what size/current of L.E.D. it uses) they are wired at least three diodes in series and each of these groupings of three are parallell wired to the next set of three.

This is just one possible scenario to explain why only half of your L.E.D BRAKE lights work.
If just one of the wires are broken, in the parallel (+) or (-) lead, then the lights before the BREAK will continue to work, but nothing after it will.
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Congratulations America, you have succeeded in dumbing down the collective intelligence level [of school age children] of our once fine, and intellectual, country.

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I didn't leave any kids behind, just locked the retards in a closet, 19th century style.

But seriously, let's stay on topic. There's some good information in this thread and I don't want it closed.
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it has been brought to my attention that my above post was slightly confusing so I will see if I can break it down a bit; and hopefully provide a better understanding of the proper, real world application of multiple L.E.D.'s

in simple terms, my point was that, in an ideal world, four each of the three volt L.E.D.'s would be able to safely use a 12 volt power source. 3 x 4 = 12
BUT, the automobile electrical system in real life dips under 9 Volts and can exceed 14 volts, it is common practice to put three or four L.E.D.'s in a series configuration as such:

+ 12 Volts
Resistor (of a specified value determined by the L.E.D. "rail" voltage) to
L.E.D.(#1) Anode (in)
L.E.D.(#1)Cathode (out) to
L.E.D.(#2) Anode (in)
L.E.D.(#2) Cathode (out) to
L.E.D.(#3) Anode (in)
L.E.D.(#3) Cathode (out) to
Ground

You can have up to 32 of these (off the top of my head I believe that is the max--don't quote me) on a single 12 Volt ''circuit.''

All the resistors would of course be hooked to the +12 Volt 'rail,'
and the Cathode sides of the final L.E.D. on each series 'string' would be hooked to the ground rail.

so you can see-- as mentioned before-- it is VERY possible for a broken wire, lead, or resistor to be the cause for some of the lights on her L.E.D. display to not work, while the others continue to function.

Scenario 1: One broken anode lead on a diode (#2) would cause all three L.E.D.s to stop working.

Scenario 2: One broken 12V power rail would still allow all the clusters of [series] L.E.D.'s prior to the break, to continue working, while any, after said break, would not be receiving power and hence not light.
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