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Head Gasket issue...again

Ok, so. Thanks for all who helped on the last thread. But after talking with another friend, I described the problem and what the shops said and he said I should just change the Head Gasket and the Bolts. He insisted I do not need to hone the head at all...but every honda person I spoke to said you need to machine the aluminum heads or they don't sit right...So I'll leave it to you guys since I'm lost. Here is the issue, if you wouldn't mind helping...again, lol:

1) I need to refill my coolant every 3 months.
2) When I get my oil changed it is very low (like 1 quart)
3) My car blows NO white smoke, ever.
4) The shop said after a compression test they feel the head gasket is blown as it is leaking.
5) I have misfires in cylinders 2 and 3 (no audible engine knock though) which to me is indicative of coolant in the cylinder
6) Goodyear said they found coolant in the oil, but they other people I took it to found no coolant in the oil at all.
7) Likewise, no oil was found in the coolant

Also, keep in mind the one shop offered me 1600 for a Head Gasket replacement, Testing/Machining of Head, Water Pump, Timing Belt, Thermostat, new Piston Rings and New Piston Bearings. I don't think I'm getting ripped off, but if I don't need that stuff then I don't want it.

So...what the heck do I do? Is it not that bad of an issue. Do I need to get it honed?

Thanks for all your help.

Matt
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Re: Head Gasket issue...again

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Ok, so. Thanks for all who helped on the last thread. But after talking with another friend, I described the problem and what the shops said and he said I should just change the Head Gasket and the Bolts. He insisted I do not need to hone the head at all...but every honda person I spoke to said you need to machine the aluminum heads or they don't sit right...So I'll leave it to you guys since I'm lost. Here is the issue, if you wouldn't mind helping...again, lol:

1) I need to refill my coolant every 3 months.
2) When I get my oil changed it is very low (like 1 quart)
3) My car blows NO white smoke, ever.
4) The shop said after a compression test they feel the head gasket is blown as it is leaking.
5) I have misfires in cylinders 2 and 3 (no audible engine knock though) which to me is indicative of coolant in the cylinder
6) Goodyear said they found coolant in the oil, but they other people I took it to found no coolant in the oil at all.
7) Likewise, no oil was found in the coolant

Also, keep in mind the one shop offered me 1600 for a Head Gasket replacement, Testing/Machining of Head, Water Pump, Timing Belt, Thermostat, new Piston Rings and New Piston Bearings. I don't think I'm getting ripped off, but if I don't need that stuff then I don't want it.

So...what the heck do I do? Is it not that bad of an issue. Do I need to get it honed?

Thanks for all your help.

Matt

If you change the head gasket, you should get the head shaved down because it's not going to be a flat even surface. Especially if the head gasket is torn to shiit. I just wanted to start by saying that. No honing involved in head gasket changes though.

I'm almost positive its a head gasket leak. If you have a misfire in cylinders 2 and 3 try replacing the spark plugs and resetting the ECU (removing negative battery cable for 10-20 seconds) and yes a head gasket leak would definitely be shown through a compression test.


My recommendation:
Misfire:Replace cylinder 2 & 3 spark plugs. Spark plugs are like 89 cents a piece. And literally 5 minutes worth of worth to change out 2 plugs. Reset ECU. Determine if thats whats causing the misfire.
Head Gasket:Replace the head gasket and get the head milled. Thats all there is to it. Do you think you personally have the mechanical inclination to remove a head gasket on your own? If so, replace it yourself and just take the head to a machine shop. If you can't, just pay a shop to remove the head, replace the gasket, and shave the head.
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I replaced the plugs a few months ago. Still registers misfires just the same though.
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