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what are your opinions on these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/INGAL...4506.m20.l1116

the control arms mount style...


versus the ball joint style ingalls for the rear camber adjustment? i can't seem to find what the pro's and con's are of the first mentioned. i'm thinking if they cost a little less than the ball joint style, and they are made by ingalls, is it safe to say they're a sure shot? has anyone installed these in the rear control arms?

i did the mistake of buying similar looking ebay ones (not the ball joint style, the control arms mount style), and it turned out to be a huge mistake..the control arm in the rear passenger side rocks a lil back and forth even when i torqued everything holding it, cause turns out that the bolt running through the rubber bushing one one of the camber adjusters is somehow loose inside...so now even when the car vibrates a lil i get this rattling noise that sounds like a bag of hardware sittin in the trunk...NEED HELP!!!!

i'm a little skeptical of getting these same versions but made by ingalls, in fear that i'll get a similar problem..

are these worth it? or should i just run with the ingalls ball joints all around!?!?!?!

i'm dropped on eibach pro-kits and kyb gr2's..and yes contrary to what alot of you had said here i was told that i need a camber kit even if just a 1.3 - 1.5 drop...PLEASE HELP!!!
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Re: INGALLS REAR CAMBER KIT..WHICH?

These are ball joint style mounts.

I don't think anyone actually makes a full upper control arm kit for our cars anymore. (4th and 5th gens are the same suspension basically)

You pop your old ball joints out of the uca and pop these in.

Spend some money and get the ones produced by Eibach (SPC).
Actually from the site I got mine the Eibachs are cheaper than the Ingalls

I got mine from TireRack.com

They sell Ingalls also but 1Badbb6 and I both have the Ones by Eibach.

If you do not know what you are doing have it done and they must be put to 120 foot pounds.
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Re: INGALLS REAR CAMBER KIT..WHICH?

i thought the ball joint style where the actual ball joint replacements? the ones i am questioning sit in the rear of the upper control arms....?? they come in pairs for each side...any comments on these?
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Re: INGALLS REAR CAMBER KIT..WHICH?

The ball joint style does indeed just replace the upper ball joint. The ones you listed from Ebay are the UCA mount style. I've only heard of them pushing the UCA out towards the fender. And with severely dropped cars, it sometimes makes the control arm hit the inner fender well, but you're drop isn't too low, so it shouldn't be a problem.


I need to get some sort of camber kit for the rear of my car too
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Re: INGALLS REAR CAMBER KIT..WHICH?

I'll be dropping my 5th gen on skunk2/AGX (anticipating 2" drop) this weekend. I am doing it without a camber kit. I guess I'll see if its really needed. I don't care about negative camber as long as my toe is set my tires will survive just fine. I'll post pics!
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Re: INGALLS REAR CAMBER KIT..WHICH?

^^^^^^^ pics always help, please do

thanks for your responses...

so with my 1.3 - 1.5 drop should i even bother getting the uca mount style for the rear?? reason i'm even getting camber kits was cause when i went to the shop they werent able to align it fully to factory settings, their reason being i needed camber kits. i know the diff between toe, camber, etc so maybe they just didnt know what they were talking about??? i dunno the UCA mount style just dont seem to be able to hold up..i guess i'm hoping somebody can confirm this for me or tell me otherwise cause i'm just basing my opinion by just looking at them...??????they seem a little ehhhh..weak...compared to the ball joint style..like they'll get out of whack easily..

so can anybody tell me iof these ingalls are worth it or should i just pay the extra bucks to get balljoint style mounts all around!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANKS!!!
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Re: INGALLS REAR CAMBER KIT..WHICH?

what i would do if i were you (what i actually did), would be to drop your car on the springs you have. take it to the shop and get it aligned and tell them to give you a printout of how many degrees your camber is actually out. the wheels can be in the negative a little and still be within factory specs. if you do get a camber kit i would just spend the extra dough and get the balljoint style. like josh, BB2H22A4, said i also have the balljoint style and so far i love them. they are very easy to set and have held up excellently so far.

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I'll be dropping my 5th gen on skunk2/AGX (anticipating 2" drop) this weekend. I am doing it without a camber kit. I guess I'll see if its really needed. I don't care about negative camber as long as my toe is set my tires will survive just fine. I'll post pics!
^^this is bs. i told you that you will need a camber kit. my toe was set just fine but my tires still wore down bald on the inside in just 6 months, i too have this setup. my camber was out -1.5 in the front and -3.5 in rear. your tires will still wear very fast with this amount of negative camber. and it will be more like a 2.25-2.50 inch drop.
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Re: INGALLS REAR CAMBER KIT..WHICH?

^^^^ thats cool and all, but back to my question!!!! haha
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Re: INGALLS REAR CAMBER KIT..WHICH?

BLES787,
If I had to choose between the ball joints or the UCA mount I'd go with the ball joints and if you can afford it then buy it now and do it all at once.

1BadBB6,
Respectfully, not that I understand alignment at all but from what I've been able to read up on inside tire wear is a toe issue. Many people have posted that they've run with negative camber with minimal/no tire wear. Now they could be lucky or liars but since I can't afford a camber kit and my tires are already reaching end of life I'll take my chances.

I'll shut up before I sound like more of an idiot :)
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