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turbo (Car Specific)

ok im new to turbos never driven a car with one never seen one in person been lookin around the internet and comparing different opinions and styles. but here is what i got...

A 97 base with vtec and i want to turbo it... im working on getting the rest of my exhaust put in so that's not a problem. however my problem is that it is a 97 and has 200,000 plus miles on it. yeah its got a lot... but i want to turbo it but i don't know where to start i don't want to spend much over $3,000 but i don't want to turbo the crap out of it just a nice size that will give me power and fairly good pick up.

my buddy was telling me to get my seals replaced before i turbo it and i was reading on some forums that i would need to get new pistons... that could handle the boost? would i have to do anything other than replace the seals if i got a decent boost controller and got it dyno-ed right after installing everything?

cars got intake and 2.5 cat back on it now
(ordering the Headers and High flow cat within a week or two)

where do i start? help please!

(o and don't just tell me to look else where i want to know what guys in my situation are doing or did before they got to 200k plus)
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Re: turbo (Car Specific)

Hey man... let me start by saying welcome to PZ

Next, A 3000 dollar turbo build on a H motor is slightly un realistic In order to run forged pistons you will have to have your block sleeved, which is kinda pricey... your other option is Mahle gold pistons, they are fmr safe forged pistons, I've never heard any good reviews on them though, hopefully someone on here has.

Also, dont bother buying a header if you plan on turboing, it wont do any good.

next (this part i'm not 100%sure im right on) but your car is a OBD2 car (not that part).. and you cant really tune OBD2, so to tune a turbo set up you'll have to convert to OBD1... atleast thats what i would do.


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Re: turbo (Car Specific)

A motor with 200k miles on has a ways to go to try and turbo it man.
Mine has 127k on it and i think its too high for me to go turbo now. And to get all the compression test done and then to build up the motor to even support the turbo is a lot. And then suspension and probably a newer clutch. The turbo itself will be cheap but getting everything else in would be expensive.

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Re: turbo (Car Specific)

first off PreludeS... whats the whole OBD1/2 stuff your talking about there

and second off paliboy10000000001 i have a brandnew clutch put in... (forgot to mention that) and suspension im also working on over this summer...

do you guys think i should just save my money and buy a newer car worth building?
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Re: turbo (Car Specific)

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first off PreludeS... whats the whole OBD1/2 stuff your talking about there
OBD1/2 is the computer in your car.... basicly you can tune OBD1, but if you try to tune a OBD2 it will slowly unlearn everything... I've heard you can piggy back them and make it work, But Stand alone EMS are EXPENSIVE
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Re: turbo (Car Specific)

3000- is your budget ... then DO NOT BOOST.
do your homework! first off check the forced induction threads. you need to know what your getting into. my car is finally running right and ive spent over 8gs before i even got to this point.
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Re: turbo (Car Specific)

I'll post some links up in here later, I'm at my girlfriends at the moment.


I'm not gonna get all into this, but 200,000 miles is a lot for for turbo build. The only way to tell for sure what kind of condition your motor is in, is to do a compression and leakdown test. Even then, I wouldn't personally turbo a car with 200k miles. You could spend the 3k on a nice rebuild though, and get your car boost ready.

And the OBD2->OBD1 thing is just simply that you have to get a jumper harness that converts your motor to OBD1. Its not that big of a deal. But you can't tune OBD2.
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Re: turbo (Car Specific)

you are better off going N/A, get yourself type S pistons, stage 2 cams, valves, retainers slightly bigger injectors, get ur head ported and polished, get it tuned and you should be at around 205 WHP
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Re: turbo (Car Specific)

3K is a bit unrealistic. you can piece a kit from the junkyard for under 1k. but all the tuning time and miscellaneous **** for if you need to do anything to your motor... that will put you over 3k BUT if you so decide to boost anyhow... you can get away with 5psi. it will give you sufficient gains, and there will be no need to build the motor with stronger parts (rods, pistons, etc). but being that you have 200k+ there are obviously things you might want to replace before you boost. a compression test or a leak down test will be a good start. that will tell you if any of your cylinders are weaker then the other and where its leaking from.

KEEP IN MIND THOUGH, and any boosted lude owners on here will tell you, boost is ADDICTIVE. you are always gonna want more.
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Re: turbo (Car Specific)

thanks sooo much for the information i figured that boosting for 3k and being over 200 thou is kinda out of the picture now so suggestions on what to spend that 3k i kinda want to budget it towards my car...
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Re: turbo (Car Specific)

routine maintenance.. exterior upgrades. if you still want to turbo later on down the road spend it on rebuilding/prepping the motor for boost.
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