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Losing oil Problem

I am losing oil shortly after each oil change. Sometimes I have had to add up to 3 quarts of oil to keep it full. It has 128000 miles. There is no leak anywhere and my exhaust never has a funny color or odor so it's not burning oil. Any ideas on what that could be and what I can do to fix it?
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Re: Losing oil Problem

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I am losing oil shortly after each oil change. Sometimes I have had to add up to 3 quarts of oil to keep it full. It has 128000 miles. There is no leak anywhere and my exhaust never has a funny color or odor so it's not burning oil. Any ideas on what that could be and what I can do to fix it?
If its not leaking, I will almost guarantee its burning it. Just because you personally can't see or smell it, doesn't mean the person behind you isn't. Have a friend drive around behind you and ride your car HARD. Get on the gas, make sure you hit vtec, and just all around try to see if your car burns oil.

If its not, then you have to be leaking. Oil doesn't just disappear.
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Re: Losing oil Problem

My 5th gen also burns a lot of oil. Under normal driving conditions it will burn almost no oil, but when I hit vtec I can see some smoke behind me. I believe this is a common problem with preludes with higher milage.
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Re: Losing oil Problem

Okay so it seems lots of us have this problem. How can we fix it or how can we reduce it cause buying 2 quarts of oil every 2 weeks is ridiculous. I was thinking of replacing the piston rings. Any other ideas?
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Re: Losing oil Problem

Like you said change the piston rings. This is the only real way to fix the problem. If you dont have the money to do that like me you can add engine restore with every oil change. After about 6 months and 3 oil changes Im now losing about half as much oil as I was before. If you have the money change the rings and it will be done with.
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Okay so it seems lots of us have this problem. How can we fix it or how can we reduce it cause buying 2 quarts of oil every 2 weeks is ridiculous. I was thinking of replacing the piston rings. Any other ideas?
Not too much you can do about it.

People try using heavier and thicker oil (10-40 and whatnot) and some have had success with it. I don't recommend using thicker oil than what the manufacturer calls for, but if you must it won't be that harmful. Also, using high mileage oil may save you from burning as much.

But no 2 ways around it, if you want it to stop, your going to have to pull the motor apart.
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Re: Losing oil Problem

yeah i did an oil change yesterday.and some old oil dripped on the cat converter. i tired cleaning it the best i can. i drive for a long while and i see smoke behind me and some coming out underneath the hood i checked it and looked like my cat was smoking. i let it cool off and started it up no smoke. so idk if its burning oil or it was the old oil that dripped on it.
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Re: Losing oil Problem

well vtec motors .... you will notice , especially if you are in vtec land alot, will consume oil. oil pressure is what makes vtec work. so say you do an oil change... you go with the bigger oil filter...ex: valveoline number 39 the bigger one... your motor ..h22 takes 5qts. you drive around all day... hitting vtec when you can. pull over and check.. you will be lower on oil not under the first dot on the stick but most likely in between the two dots.
that could solve the mystery disappearing oil problem. but if you are missing that much oil... 3 qts a week... smokey is right your either burning it .. (bad rings) or you have a massive leak.

places to check for a leak:
cam seal the black plastic circle thing behind the vtec selonoid
distributor oring
valve cover gasket inside and out
camshaft seals by the tbelt
balancer shaft seals
oil pan
oil cooler oring
even a clogged up pcv valve might be the problem.
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Re: Losing oil Problem

H22s burn oil, that's all there is to it. They burn a lot of oil if you spend a lot of time on the high cam. I would think that what you should do is see if you can stay off the high cam for a few days, then see if it's still consuming oil. If it's still using a lot of oil when you're not on the high cam, then you have a problem, which could be one listed in Bustr's very informative post.
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Re: Losing oil Problem

A buddy of mine told me that my prelude was smoking when i shift while in vtec but not when not shifting. I've also heard before from others that it does it as well. Is this still related to the same problems?

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yeah i did an oil change yesterday.and some old oil dripped on the cat converter. i tired cleaning it the best i can. i drive for a long while and i see smoke behind me and some coming out underneath the hood i checked it and looked like my cat was smoking. i let it cool off and started it up no smoke. so idk if its burning oil or it was the old oil that dripped on it.
def the oil that dripped on it, it will smell and burn off depending on how much u spilt on it u should be able to see it when it smokes.
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A buddy of mine told me that my prelude was smoking when i shift while in vtec but not when not shifting. I've also heard before from others that it does it as well. Is this still related to the same problems?
well when you hit vtec your gonna have some black smoke coming out of your exhaust. so that is normal.
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Re: Losing oil Problem

Well a simple solution but most likely not it could be the oil pressure sender. I know there common to leak and on the prelude its right above the exhaust where its not the solid metal but that mental mesh so teh exhaust can bend a bit and the oil drips onto that..Mine needs to be replaced becuase its leaking there. Just a sugesstion. But on a more expensive and realistic solution. I would agree with everyone else with the rings. Could be head gasket but i mean if your gonna take your engine apart to that point, you should just get the rebuild. Kill all the birds with one stone.
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What about an oil catch can? Isn't that at least a slight fix to losing oil in Vtec?
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BUt if the oil is being burned and leaving the engine in the form of smoke, what will the catch can catch?
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Re: Losing oil Problem

Another quick way to check for burnt oil is too look for black carbon/dust build up on the bumper above the muffler. If it is burning a lot, that whole region of the rear bumper should be covered. Also check the bottom of the tranny for moisture. If there is lots of grime, it will absorb all the oil and make it very difficult to tell if it is leaking.
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