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Old 03-31-2009, 06:00 PM
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okay so this started happening yesterday. i got in my car, started driving and as i was shifting from gear to gear i noticed that the tension on my clutch pedal was 50% gone. pushing the clutch half way would normally start releasing the gears, but it didnt do that till half way in. so i drove it to walmart, stopped and pumped the clutch pedal and the tension came back to normal. then later that night it started doing it again. i tried pumping the clutch pedal again but nothing changed. so i dont know what to do or what to think..... is my clutch going out? or is there just something wrong with the tension or what???

if anybody experienced this before please let me know, or if there is something i should do...

ps. right now the lude is driving fine, the gears arent slipping or anything its just that it feels like most of the tension from the clutch pedal is gone!!
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Old 03-31-2009, 07:38 PM
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Re: somthing wrong with my clutch pedal. please help!!!

I had this happen to me back in November, you've got anywhere from a couple days to two weeks max before you'll blow either the slave cylinder or the clutch master cylinder. For reference, the slave cylinder is in front of the transmission (like a couple inches away from your passenger side radiator fan) and the clutch master cylinder is up near your brake master cylinder, but it's the smaller of the two.

For me, the slave cylinder is the one that went out. Upon examination, whenever the clutch was pressed in, it would jet a superfine mist of fluid (which, coincidently is brake fluid in there) right onto the radiator/radiator fan.

When you take it to a shop, they will recommend that you change both at the same time, because when one fails, the other isn't too far behind.

If you're not going to get this fixed tomorrow, at least enter a couple tow truck phone numbers in your cell phone tonight just in case you get stranded. I got stranded in the parking lot where I get my hair cut, but it was fairly close to home, so I walked and got it the next day.

If you're fairly knowledgable with a wrench, you could do the swap yourself, although it's tough to tell you which part is actually failing. Just remember a couple tips before you get started:

The bleed-screw for the whole system is located on the slave cylinder down at the bottom of the tranny like I toldja

You should use Honda DOT3 Brake Fluid to refill the system when you're done (mixing other brands is inviting trouble)

Brake fluid is extremely corrosive, so do not get any on your paint and if you do, wipe it off immediately.


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Re: somthing wrong with my clutch pedal. please help!!!

check the clutch fluid, if thats not it then your master or slave clutch cylinder could be going.


edit: Damn beat me to it lmao^^^^

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Re: somthing wrong with my clutch pedal. please help!!!

thanks guys, i really appreciate it. ill try to get to a shop tomorrow but ill check it out tonight and see if i see anythin.
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Re: somthing wrong with my clutch pedal. please help!!!

problem solved, i bled the slave cylinder and i got back the tension. it actually works better now then before. thanks alot guys. that was very helpful :)
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Re: somthing wrong with my clutch pedal. please help!!!

Take brake cleaner (like Brake-leen) to that slave cylinder and it'll make any oil run off and leave you with a dry surface, then drive it for a day and check if there are any new oil spots afterwards. If there are, you have some leaky seals in the slave cylinder. Your problems might not be over.

Also, if you check your fluid and it's not low, that might not be such a powerful sign, because if it leaks, it'll leak in such a small amount each time and then one day, when the seal goes, that's when aaaallll the fluid goes.

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Re: somthing wrong with my clutch pedal. please help!!!

alright i'll do that. thanks for the help :) if anythin else goes wrong ill post it
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Re: somthing wrong with my clutch pedal. please help!!!

so i cleaned up the slave cylinder with the brake cleaner today and i noticed a small leak near the bleed valve... i tightened the vavle, cleaned it with brake cleaner, drove it for about an hour and a couple hours later noticed that the area near the valve was wet. so im assuming its leaking.... so do i need a new slave cylinder? or should i get it completely checked out by a shop?

akaprepreludesh you've been a big help, any ideas?
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Re: somthing wrong with my clutch pedal. please help!!!

Yeah man, your slave cylinder is about ready to go out on you. Time to get the new one. Order it now so you won't have to wait when it's time to take it in the shop. An experienced mechanic will be able to change it all out in under 30 minutes.

Also, I recommend replacing the clutch master cylinder too if you have the cash. If not, start saving and do it as soon as you can as well.
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Re: somthing wrong with my clutch pedal. please help!!!

akaprepreludesh things got worse.... i replaced the clutch master cylinder and the slave cylinder and spent the last 2 days trying to bleed the damn thing and nothing. i have even went to the local advance auto and bought a vacume pump to try and bleed the slave cylinder that way, and still no luck. right now my clutch pedal has 50% tension on it, my brake pedal is stiff and cant really move, and my battery is dead from listing to music while working on the car. so at this point im at a loss. ive called all my friends and really im all alone on this one. and you would think that asking a navy seabee macanic to help you would get you out of a bind but nope! (im in the navy by the way)

anyways, i heard that you have to bleed the master cylinder as well, and bleed the brakes that true? any helpful tips?

again thanks alot man, u been a big help.
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Re: somthing wrong with my clutch pedal. please help!!!

ummm... I'm not really sure without being there... I can only ask, how you're bleeding each of the master cylinders (brake and clutch). Do you have somebody there pumping the clutch as the bleed valve is open? I know it sounds like a dumb question, but I have to start somewhere...

Then, what is the order you're bleeding the brakes by? Do you start from the farthest away point from the brake master cylinder? The order is the passenger rear wheel and then do the drivers rear wheel then the passenger front wheel then the driver front wheel?

Also, what fluid are you using for all of this? If you've never done this before, you should be using Honda DOT3 brake fluid for both. If you've done this before with a different fluid, you need to match that. Two different brands of fluid (even with the same DOT rating) can react with each other inside your lines, in which case, you're going to have to fill and bleed the whole thing again.
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Re: somthing wrong with my clutch pedal. please help!!!

Long shot, but I'm thinking pressure plate if what you've done hasn't worked. If that's the case, might as well get a new clutch too. If you do, make sure you either get a new flywheel or resurface the one you have.
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Re: somthing wrong with my clutch pedal. please help!!!

Damn, that would be a worst case scenario... He said that he could see the fluid was leaking from the slave cylinder, so its good that he got it fixed. That would be crazy if his clutch went out the same time his slave cylinder and his clutch master cylinder went out...

The one time my clutch went out, I could tell because I put the clutch in, turned the car on (I had the car in 1st as I turned it on) and the car started to buck forward and then stalled and died. You'll know your clutch is dead when your car can't hold a gear or it acts like when you push the clutch in, there is no separation of the pressure plate from the flywheel.
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Re: somthing wrong with my clutch pedal. please help!!!

what happens if you change out the master cylinder, and when i go back to bleed the system it never builds any pressure. the pedal stays down due to the spring on it.
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