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STS Turbo 5th Gen Lude

Has anyone had any experiance or seen a Squires Turbo System on a 5th gen prelude or any prelude for that matter... and wether or not it would be a good idea... the universal stage 3 kit cost 2,695.00 and comes with everything listed...

Turbo (application specific)
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Dry-charger
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Re: STS Turbo 5th Gen Lude

not really. U can get a turbo kit that mounts in the engine bay for about the same price.
I've looked into it for my lude, and my buddy did research on it for his lexus.
The UNIVERSAL kits leave alot of the needed things out of their kit. You're pretty much buying a new turbo, wastegate, some extra pieces, and their oiling system

You still need someone to weld the stuff for the turbo and waste flanges, plus the exhaust coming off the turbo. Then you're gonna have to make room for the intercooler/charge piping to run back to the front of the car along side of exhaust pipe. On top of other things needed when you boost. Like fuel pump, injectors, engine management, gauges are a necessity but are useful.

You'd still need to spend more money to get the kit in ur car.
Its up to you. Ppl wouldn't know you had a turbo unless you were boosting when they're watching
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Re: STS Turbo 5th Gen Lude

I seen a lot of good numbers put down by squires (like 500+ hp on stock motors and all) but the whole set up seems kind of fishy. The turbo's don't sit in the engine bay, they sit by your rear wheels.

If you do decide to go that route I would love to see it. I'll be really interested in what it puts down. Good luck with your choice in turbo set ups, and post pics and info asap.

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Re: STS Turbo 5th Gen Lude

Well I have a pipe bender and i can weld with ease but what your saying does sound like alot o=more work.
But other than that i like the way that the STS turbo sits alongthe car... reading into it they have me convinced about the less heat and haveing more potential from the turbo itself.

I use to own a mustang 95 GT 5.0 stock ... cold air intake nothing special... however i was goin down the highway and this 350Z pulls up and has this system on it ... i was amazed with the amount of power that it had... and the sound that came from it was amazing .. after that i pretty much fell in love with it... but im still just not sure how it will work on my Prelude.
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Re: STS Turbo 5th Gen Lude

they're popular on V6's and V8's cuz their engine bays are alot more cramped than ours are, in terms of fitting a hair dryer in there.

if you don't feel like dealing with a bunch of headaches or pioneering into a new world, just stick to the conventional method, we have plenty of room in the engine bay.
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Re: STS Turbo 5th Gen Lude

well if i dont go sts then what turbo system would be good for mine... cause its still an everyday car but if i want close to 400 horses kicken out of it what can i do... without getting rid of the a/c. Belice it or not this is the first time i have tried to turbo anything. So guys teach me your ways.
Oh yea BTW is Greddy a good turbo system... ??? Let me know.
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its still an everyday car but if i want close to 400 horses kicken out of it
Right there is your problem.

400whp is not an everday car. 300 whp isn't even a good daily driver horsepower.

Your wanting too much bro, I'm sorry to tell you. 250 ponies at the wheels will be good enough for a DD. and 250 ponies is easily attainable, and you can still keep A/C and Power steering. Your going to want to go with a "Log" manifold like this:



Plus anything really under 275whp(ish) you won't have to sleeve the block or dump money into internals.

In my opinion, and I don't want to sound like a dick, but you need to research turbo's a bit more before you make your final decision.
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Re: STS Turbo 5th Gen Lude

naw you dont sound like one.. cause i really dont know a whole lot about it... But here is my deal.. the money isnt the biggest issue.. but my buddy is drivin his Civic and he's pumpin out close to 350 horses.. i want to be able to atleast keep up with him.
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to keep up with a 350 wheel civic (like 2500lbs) is gonna be pretty tricky with a prelude.
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Yea cuz I bet that civic will run 11's all day with slicks. an EG civic with 220whp runs mid to high 12's
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thats what i was afraid of.. but cant i get more horses with more ease than he can.. cause its a 2.2 and Vtech ???
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thats what i was afraid of.. but cant i get more horses with more ease than he can.. cause its a 2.2 and Vtech ???
yea you could probably pull more ponies out of your motor, but its the power to weight ratio where he kills you. And It Vtec not "Vtech" just a heads up.

Your best bet bro, is to turbo the lude and enjoy it. Love it for what it is. A fat ass. But its a way sexier car. Just look at his then look at yours. You tell me which one looks better.
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Well if your talking about running at the Track then sorry theres no way your going to keep up with the civic. As much power your going to put down you always have to remember the weight of your vehicle. Civics are like feathers, we on the other hand are like whales compared to them.

The sts turbo, if you want to try it out then by all means try it out, no one here can help you out though seeming you would be the first person. If it comes out to all the better for you congrats. But it seems as if something were to go wrong it would be way more of a hassle just to get to it.

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Right there is your problem.

400whp is not an everday car. 300 whp isn't even a good daily driver horsepower.

Your wanting too much bro, I'm sorry to tell you. 250 ponies at the wheels will be good enough for a DD. and 250 ponies is easily attainable, and you can still keep A/C and Power steering. Your going to want to go with a "Log" manifold like this:



Plus anything really under 275whp(ish) you won't have to sleeve the block or dump money into internals.

In my opinion, and I don't want to sound like a dick, but you need to research turbo's a bit more before you make your final decision.
man, you and I are going to best friends! I'm not a fan of the log style manis but unless you find an SFP or have some to build a custom mani's you are gonna lose ac. Seriously guys boost is a big deal and you need to take you time. Just read some of those build threads that are 100+ pages. You can learn all you want right there.
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naw you dont sound like one.. cause i really dont know a whole lot about it... But here is my deal.. the money isnt the biggest issue.. but my buddy is drivin his Civic and he's pumpin out close to 350 horses.. i want to be able to atleast keep up with him.

Don't underestimate the cost for boos, and to make matters worst...you want to beat your buddy!!?!?!? You are ****ing up yo.
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Re: STS Turbo 5th Gen Lude

250whp, 275wtq, DD, and the only thing i had to ditch was CC (which i ditched like 2 years before boots anyway)



oh yea, and washer fluid.



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well you guys are alot of help and im not bein sarcastic... i mean i dont know how old you guys are but im only 20.. but i have to say that i just learned a mouth full about myself and to twokexlv6coupe your right about makin g my car my own... if i want to impress anyone it should be me everytime i look at my baby. So i want enough horses to kick a few stock mustangs behind me .. when is enough horsepower to pull off this little stunt.
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you have time mate...in the mean time got get laid.

I made some mistakes when I went boost. The worst was spending money on stuff I didn't need. I should have read some of the threads I browsed closer, that's the only thing I'm saying.
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well you guys are alot of help and im not bein sarcastic... i mean i dont know how old you guys are but im only 20.. but i have to say that i just learned a mouth full about myself and to twokexlv6coupe your right about makin g my car my own... if i want to impress anyone it should be me everytime i look at my baby. So i want enough horses to kick a few stock mustangs behind me .. when is enough horsepower to pull off this little stunt.
Master actually driving the car and you can beat any stock V8 Mustang that isn't the new body style with a moderate to bad driver. If they're a master of their car as well, it'd just have to be up to him to slip somewhere.

Sounds like you may be better off just supercharging. That will get you 230ish whp. More than enough to do some damage to a few Mudstains.
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theres plentys of dd preludes putting down 300-400 whp on pp.com go check out the turbo section there
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theres plentys of dd preludes putting down 300-400 whp on pp.com go check out the turbo section there
really? well did they keep a/c and ps like this guy wanted?

Your post has no relevancy to this thread topic that we've been going with.

Not only will you almost never find a 3-400 hp dd prelude, but if you do I'll bet my bottom dollar they don't have a/c and ps like this guy wants.

So hush.
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This is the only prelude on PP that I know of that running big power with ac and ps. It;s the white one and it belongs to my dude Mike.

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Circle the A/c in this picture...



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Re: STS Turbo 5th Gen Lude

IF ya want to beat your buddy's civic then ya have to get a civic or some smaller car. I seen a ford festiva with a Toyota turbo engine that was prity much a "drop in" seal run 12's all day. For a DD lude i would say 230-250hp is good. The STS Turbo would be a cool mod and you would be one of the first to do it. The only proplem i see with it would be running the tubing all the way from the rear to the front. Most of the time ppl but it on something with a v6 or v8 and turn the dule exhaust in to a single and use that space. Under the lude it would be tight. Not imposable just would have to have a great deal of planing. If you just want a lil bit of boost look into a SC. Not to many running around, gives ya the power ya want and looks and sounds F@#KING sexy. Never looked into it full but should be able to do it for about what a turbo "kit" would cost.
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Re: STS Turbo 5th Gen Lude

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that car has AC and PS. the PS is obvious, but the AC not so much. see the two black lines? one is right in front of the turbo, and the wastegate is pointing at the second line. those are the AC lines . you can just bareellyyyyy see the shine of the AC compressor right in front of the wastegate as well.
its hard to see the compressor cuz its under the alternator, which is under the PS pump.



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hey nick...




that car has AC and PS. the PS is obvious, but the AC not so much. see the two black lines? one is right in front of the turbo, and the wastegate is pointing at the second line. those are the AC lines . you can just bareellyyyyy see the shine of the AC compressor right in front of the wastegate as well.
its hard to see the compressor cuz its under the alternator, which is under the PS pump.



very good eyes! and thats a very clean engine bay. back to the actual topic! STS is not worth it!
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Re: STS Turbo 5th Gen Lude

but if i do go the sts way then i can also set it up as a twin turbo easier than i could putting two turbos in the engine bay if that even possible

and also about making a twin turbo lude using sts i could still just run 6psi from each turbo.. and then when i want just crank it up with my boost controller... right???
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twin turbo'ing a 4 cylinder is not a good idea at all. it is very very inefficient since two cylinders will be spooling each turbo, not 4, so the turbos would hafta be significantly smaller in order to make any boost what-so-ever. then once you START building boost, they turbos are going to be choking/restricting the entire engine since they won't be able to flow as much volume of air that the engine will be providing in the upper rpms.


just stick to your basic turbo-in-engine-bay setup. it'll be more more efficient, cheaper (in the long run), make more power, easier to install, yadda yadda yadda//
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hmm ok so ive decided that im gon to try to get 350 to 4 horses out of it anytway even if i have to remove the a/c and some other components but im still tryin to find someone to dyno tune the car and the only place that i know of shut down not that long ago.. im in NC to btw
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http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2349805
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