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Old 02-18-2009, 05:16 PM
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Hi everyone. I went to start my car this morning and it was much harder to push the clutch in. It also engaged at a much higher place than it usually does. It had happened a couple of weeks ago intermittently so I figured it would just go away again. Call it high hopes or stupidity. This morning I drove it to my cousins house and that's when it really started acting funny. It would go into gear, but when I would step on the throttle it would rev high and the lude would barely move. I had it towed back to my house just now. Is the clutch dead?

My lude has 119,000 miles on the stock clutch.

I searched a little and some people say it could be the clutch cylinders or the clutch. I know that the guy I bought it from a few years ago had replaced one of the cylinders. I can't remember if it was both or just one. My lude is my only car so I'm screwed.

I had been searching for information on clutches over the last few months and thats when I learned about flywheels. If I have to replace my clutch I will prbly get a fidanza lightened flywheel. Either 10 or 12 pounder. Since my car is a daily driver I will prbly go with an oem clutch. Are all oem clutches for the 5th gens made by exedy?

I will also change the throwout beiring. Actually the mechanic will have to do that but I am going to ask him to do that. I am really bummed right now but I am trying to look on the bright side. A new flywheel should make my car feel a little livelier.

F'it! I'm going to ride my bike to the store and buy some beer. That will make me feel better
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Re: High hopes

check your master cylinder and make sure there is fluid in it, if not then you have a leak somewhere and you will need to fix that, bleed your clutch and try to drive it. if that doesnt fix it then you will more than likely have to replace your clutch. lightweight flywheels are good. if you are changing your clutch might as well go with a stage 1 or 2. oh and learn how to use the edit post feature instead of posting a new comment everytime.
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check your fluid. if its getting low that can sometimes be it and also check behind your clutch pedal and look where the rod goes into the master cylinder and look and see if you see any fluid leaking or its wet
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Re: High hopes

Thanks guys. I checked the fluid level and it doesn't look like its low.

Why do you prefer a stage 1 or 2 over a stock clutch 1BadBB6? I know that if I ever make any serious horsepower gains that I will need a stronger clutch. Is that why? Your lude looks beautiful. I'm sure you hear that a lot.

Sorry about the posting. When I introduced myself on the new members page I wrote a long post and nobody wanted to read it. I was thinking that it would be easier to read this thread if I made multiple posts, seeing as how I was doing them at different times. Guess not. I will use the edit button next time. I'm new to this forum stuff. I've been a guest on this site for a long time but I have never posted.
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Re: High hopes

^all those posts aren't too big a deal (gets you more attention... esp when it goes into the most viewed threads!)... and ppl really do skip the longer posts, haha... welcome!

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F'it! I'm going to ride my bike to the store and buy some beer. That will make me feel better
LOL... I bet the clutch is gone... I love my stage 1 competition clutch, but you def. don't NEED a staged clutch... depends how much you want to spend (I could have gotten a quality exedy OEM replacement for about 1/3 as much)... depends what YOU want... I don't really see the point in going past stage 1 unless you are going to be putting significantly more power to the ground than stock.

Good idea on replacing the bearings, and flywheel won't hurt... a lot of guys on here like their 8lbers, but I think I will look for the 11lb steel one when I upgrade... I would have when I did my h22 swap, but I wanted to get a little use out of the stocker since in had <25,000 miles and I was starting to run low on dough... when I have to have to clutch done in a few years I think I'll upgrade.

Good luck man, enjoy the bike ride... it will do you good, enjoy that beer too, that is what I'm doing right now!
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thanks mr_y82. I am enjoying the brew.

I can't find any 10 or 12 pound fidanza flywheels. I have found 8 pounders and a billet steel one that doesn't say the weight but it says that the package it is shipped in will weigh 15 pounds. It is a little frustrating because I have been reading all sorts of posts recommending certain parts and when I go to look for them I can't find them. I guess I have to work on my researching skills.

I have found the exedy oem clutch for $200 shipped so that makes me feel better. The CC stage 1 is $300 but that doesn't include shipping. Money is a factor, as it usually is.

In the new members threads I was asking for suggestions regarding my new kyb agx's and eibach spring installation. All the stuff I found for that will add up to about $100. Not sure if I can afford to do that now but we'll see. That's partly why I am so bummed. I want to take 25 mph turns at 50 too.

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Re: High hopes

Just thought I would chime in, just this Tuesday, I had a Clutch master stage 1 clutch and fidanza 8 lb installed... It is very different car now. Prewarning, if you go from the stock (22ish pound) flywheel and oem clutch to an 8lb flywheel and staged clutch, be prepared for a slight learning curve on driving :P

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oh and learn how to use the edit post feature instead of posting a new comment everytime.
I don't wanna be a dick, it doesn't bother me that much, but I know a mod or two that will get pissed about that many posts in that short of a time span, so I'm just looking out for you.

As far as clutches/flywheels, yes, Exedy makes the OEM clutches. All you need is an OEM clutch unless you run 230+whp. If you're going with a lightweight flywheel, you might as well go with an 8lb one. I would only recommend a 10/12lb one if you were running a turbo (even then it's debatable). Yeah there's a learning curve, but it's worth it in my opinion. Performance > Everything Else.
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Yeah there's a learning curve, but it's worth it in my opinion. Performance > Everything Else.
Agreed 110%.. not sure how that's mathematically possible but hey...
and as i only have 50 miles on it i have not really pushed it, but i already noticed a huge different, and its great.
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Thanks SpYd3r05. I have been reading that all you need to do is feather the clutch a bit. I am assuming that means just lightly applying force to the throttle.

Thanks for looking out dbd6604. I think I am going to get the 8 pounder. I have read other threads that mention the clutch feel didn't change a lot for them if they had the stock clutch and they liked that. It was R8GYY who said it before his messed up. Do other people feel the same? Would it be about the same with a stage 1? From what I have read there doesn't seem to be much difference between the two. I ask because some sites are selling package deals with stage 1 clutches and 8 pound fidanza flywheels. If I can get that for cheaper then I might go for a stage 1 as long as it doesn't launch too much. I often drive in traffic and I have read that people just leave a lot of space between themselves and the car in front but I don't like getting flipped off all the time. Others around here can be a bit more vicious than showing me I'm number 1.

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Why do you prefer a stage 1 or 2 over a stock clutch 1BadBB6? I know that if I ever make any serious horsepower gains that I will need a stronger clutch. Is that why? Your lude looks beautiful. I'm sure you hear that a lot.
i just like a clutch with more grab in it, and thanks for the compliment.

its cool bout the posting just lettin ya know so you dont get flamed by anyone.
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I have found a site called Import Replacement Parts that is selling an exedy stage 1 clutch for $269 and an 8 pound Fidanza flywheel for $189. Does that sound reasonable? Has anyone ever heard of this site?
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I often drive in traffic and I have read that people just leave a lot of space between themselves and the car in front but I don't like getting flipped off all the time. Others around here can be a bit more vicious than showing me I'm number 1.
Stage one as long as you have a steady foot your good to go in traffic, no issue at all. I have no clue about anything higher.

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I have found a site called Import Replacement Parts that is selling an exedy stage 1 clutch for $269 and an 8 pound Fidanza flywheel for $189. Does that sound reasonable? Has anyone ever heard of this site?
I paid 154 shipped for my fidanza 8 lb and I paid 383 for a clutch master stage 1.
Clutch seems about right, flywheel egh, look around a little. No, I have not heard of that site.

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Thanks SpYd3r05. I have been reading a lot more about the 8 pound fidanza flywheel and some people say that revs drop too quickly in normal driving, and sometimes they even fall too quickly when having fun in VTEC. Have you heard anything like this? Some say that you have to constantly be rev matching, which means you are constantly slipping the clutch, and you wear your clutch out quicker. Now I have to research rev matching to see if my understanding of the concept is correct.

How are you doing with yours? Is it a lot more effort to drive, meaning are you constantly trying to match revs? I know you probably havn't passed the breaking in point yet. Do you have to constantly be rev matching? What are you doing to break in the clutch, are you just not letting it slip as much or not letting go of the clutch too quickly?

I have been searching and searching and I am going crazy. There are so many different opinions. Plus I have to go through tons of different threads hoping to find the info I need. I know that much of it is just a matter of preference. I just don't want to go and buy something and be unsatisfied with my purchase so I am forced to research.

Sorry if I am venting too much.

Did you replace the rear seal?

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They do fall quicker, but when rev matching before the new flywheel i had to wait on the engine. It's almost a perfect fall in rpm my opinion.
I'm starting to get use to it, its really not that big of a deal now, the stage one does make for a little heavier clutch pedal but its not to bad, unless your in say, downtown Atlanta.
150 miles before I can actually open it some and see how it feels, should be done by the end of the weekend... I'll post back once i can open it up some...
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Thanks SpYd3r05!
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