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Old 02-12-2009, 01:41 PM
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h22a swap

ive noticed the 4th gen h22's are alot cheaper to buy than the 5th gen h22's.

of what i can figure out, they are basically the same, so cant i just buy 4th gen h22 n put into a 5th gen?? only difference i can find is in the ECU

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Re: h22a swap

the only difference between the 4th gen and 5th gen is the shape of the car. thats it. and the fact that the fifth gen is a newer model and will generally have less mileage on it, but why would you want to do a h22 to h22 swap?? they are the same engine.
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yea thats good news. well the prelude im looking at this guy i know is selling it because his timing belt broke. he took it to a mechanic, they replaced the belt. but when they ran the car n put it into reverse the transmission blew.

so i dont knew if i get the car if im need 2 get the engine rebuilt or juss do a full swap. so i was looking for engines and i found some h22a for 4th gens preatty cheap compared to the 5th gens. like a difference of $1000 CAD.
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the engines are exactly the same for the 2.2 vtec h22 engines. so yes u can do a straight swap and you should be good!
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Re: h22a swap

Yeah ull be perfectly fine. Just make sure you use an obd2 harness for the motor. Is the car a VTEC originally? If not wont you need a new ecu?
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Re: h22a swap

as long as he's in america, all USDM 5G's were vtec, so he doesn't hafta worry about that.
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i thought the h22a4 is an open deck block??
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Re: h22a swap

It is. That and after 98+ the main journals were bigger. (Thanks Blake, lol)

Everything else is the same though, will still swap in like any other H22
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Re: h22a swap

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as long as he's in america, all USDM 5G's were vtec, so he doesn't hafta worry about that.
eh??? im sorry u lost me for a second?? are u trying to tell me there is no usdm 2.0 5th gens in america??
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Re: h22a swap

and there is a horse power difference if you care that much
220 whp 5th gen h22a4
200 whp 4th gen h22a

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Re: h22a swap

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eh??? im sorry u lost me for a second?? are u trying to tell me there is no usdm 2.0 5th gens in america??
correct. we only had H22a4's in the 5G's over here. (someone correct me if i'm wrong.)

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and there is a horse power difference if you care that much
220 whp 5th gen h22a4
200 whp 4th gen h22a

http://www.geocities.com/chipman_13/hon-car-eng.html

haha, too bad its not Whp. and those figures are transposed as well.
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Re: h22a swap

5th gen h22's have a sensor on the timing side of the motor, where 4th gen h22's gets the signal from the distributor.

And all the 5th gens in the U.S. came with h22a4's

I thought only the Type S (red valve cover) h22 had 220....

H22a has more compression than h22a1 or h22a4 10.6:1 vs 10.0:1
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