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Old 02-10-2009, 03:46 PM
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engine oil seals

Hello, I am new to the Honda Prelude Forum. What brings me here is that I own a 2001 Prelude. It started leaking a lot of oil and seems to be coming from the timing belt cover. I have it jacked up and I have started removing the timing belt cover. Rain and cold weather has stopped me to date, tomorrow looks better. I am ready to lower the engine so I can take off the bottom timing belt cover. I suspect an engine seal.
I saw the Helms book breakdown - does that have useable links to the sections? I have tried and I can't make it work.
My question is can I remove the oil seals with the journals in-place and not have to remove the engine.
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Re: engine oil seals

If it's coming from the timing belt cover, it's going to be the front main seal, balance shaft seal, or cam seals. You can replace those seals without removing the engine. You'll need to R&R the timing belt regardless of which seals you replace. To do this, you'll need to remove the autotensioner. DO NOT reuse it. Replace it. If you reuse it, with that kind of mileage on it, you're almost guaranteed that it will fail soon after reinstallation.

I would bet it's the front balance shaft seal. It's not impossible to replace it with the engine in the car, but it's not fun. Look in the Helms. I would not do this job without it.

I've done more timing belt jobs on 5Gen Preludes than I care to remember. :)
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Re: engine oil seals

You are right about the front balance shaft oil seal. I finally was able to loosen the crankshaft nut and remove the lower cover and then I saw it. I remember reading a Honda Service Bulletin addressing this problem and their remedy was a retainer clip installed on the block holding in the seal for the front balancing shaft. I thought that since those earlier cars that Honda would have included the fix in the following years, but no retainer clip is installed on my 2001.
I don't think I could install it unless the engine is removed. Wish me luck with this baby.
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good luck, take pictures!
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Re: engine oil seals

You can install it with the engine in the car. I've done it a few times.
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You can install it with the engine in the car. I've done it a few times.
yea it is possible... the cams are easy.... the crank seal (front main) is easy.. the balancer ones... DAM... they suck... but they are possible w/ the motor in... just do your self favor... put alil grease on the out edges of the new ones.... A LIL BIT .... and make sure they are even and flush. good luck
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Re: engine oil seals

Hello, i need help

I had this same problem few days ago. I went to Econolube for an oil change, the next day I notice a leak coming out for the bottom. First I thought they forgot to tighten up the oil filter, so i went back to Econolube and they said there were no Balance shaft seal retainer on my 2001 Honda Prelude....is this true? I was thinking they ripped me off my removing this when they did the oil change. Well, right now the car is on their shop and fixing it. They charge me for $300 to fix it including changing the timing belt.

I'm not sure if i got ripped off or you guys think they did this intentionally?

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Re: engine oil seals

well they would hav to work real hard to rip u on this 1 if thas what is leaking. but with shops u never kno thas y i do all my work on my car myself. make sure it gets done right and i cant blame ne1 but myself.
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Re: engine oil seals

you don't need to do a T-belt change in order to put the balance shaft seal retainer on, but if they're going to do a whole T-belt job for only $300, then that's cheap, but if they're going to charge $300 just to put the retainer on, then you're getting ripped off..


If they change the T-belt, be sure to get an invoice of what all they changed, cause here's a list of what they should change

-T-belt
-Water pump
-Front main seal
-Balance shaft seal
-Balancer belt(not really needed)
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