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Rear Deck Speakers Size / Recommendations

What is the actual size of the rear deck speakers in my 2000 Lude? A lot of sites will tell you 6x9 but I swear they look like 6x8's?

And can anybody give me a recommendation on some replacement rear triaxal speakers that will work well with the stock Honda stereo?

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Re: Rear Deck Speakers Size / Recommendations

they are 6x9. the only speakers that are "6x8" are found in Ford and Mazda and are the same as 5x7s. The rear speakers in your 00 Lude are powered by an external amp that is found on the underside of the rear deck.
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Re: Rear Deck Speakers Size / Recommendations

Dun mean to thread Jack, but what is the best possible rear speakers to buy that can pull a max punch amount of BASS without having to take it to the next step of buyin a new amp and sub?!?!
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Re: Rear Deck Speakers Size / Recommendations

Start out with dynamat or other sound-deadener first and you will see a huge difference. the brand won't matter that much. Why avoid adding an amp?
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Re: Rear Deck Speakers Size / Recommendations

The main reason people wanna avoid amps is cost. Though when it comes to stereo stuff you get what yo pay for. I ran a good pair of 6x9s and splits off my deck for a while, but was never happy.

Do you wanna go full on system with subs and such later on, or not at all?

If yes, then I'd get a good set of splits for the front, and a pair of 6" rear co-axes now, then save up until you can afford the sub/amp(s) you want.

If not, then get a good set of splits, a good pair of 6x9s (some will say there is no such thing as a good set of 6x9s, and while in most cases I agree with them, I'm sticking with this comment) then get a small 4-channel amp to power the lot.
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Re: Rear Deck Speakers Size / Recommendations

dont wanna thread jack but thought that a new thread would be unesscary so here goes...

What are your guys opinion about kicker? I know that they are extremely brand name and sometimes brand name isnt always best, only reason i ask is that circuit city has 6x9 kickers for 60% of $150. so i figure i can capitalize on thier failure =D
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Re: Rear Deck Speakers Size / Recommendations

where would you buy/install dynamat material? right under the rear deck? and what would this do?
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where would you buy/install dynamat material? right under the rear deck? and what would this do?
I recommend ordering Dynamat Extreme off the internet because you will most likely find better deals because it can get a little pricey. Anyways, it is installed using a heat gun and then pressed firmly against the metal of pretty much any part of the car you choose (interior). For the rear speakers, simply remove the rear deck and apply 2-3 strips across the top, press it in nicely, and you are good to go. I am short on time right now but I can get some pictures after work today.
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Re: Rear Deck Speakers Size / Recommendations

In short the sound damping material will help keep the movement of the speaker from transfering into vibration of metal, thus, giving more sound and bass,particularly, where you want it.

Now I would certainly agre with brash's first step. Before buying new rears, which won't give you the desired effect because the factory amp is designed to be operated at 2 ohms rather than the aftermarket standard or 4 ohms. Aaand...do nothing for sound stange. As Brash said, get a nice component set or even a nice coax something along the lines of JL VR line up (which has built on crossover) or Boston SL65. Very integral part of acheiving good bass from such a speaker is to make certain that you have a good seal around the speaker where it mounts. If you figure that a good set of 6x9s is going to run in the neighborhood of 150-250 dollars you have almost bought a 4 ch amp! What you can do with is is run the front speakers off 2 ch of the amp and down the road you could add something like a pair of 8s or single 10 or 12. Using an efficient speaker will yeild great results. Or if don't ever plan on using a woofer a nice 2ch amp can be had for the same price. This will yeild FAR better results than rear speakers.

I'm just throwing out a differnt option. Unless you've read lilmissys essays on this its not very common knowledge. Its kinda something you learn from experience. If you are interested let me know and I can give you all the info you could need to know. If you are set on using rear speakers Brash's advice on using 6 1/2s is good advice. Oval speakers have stress points in the surround at the skinny ends that translates into distortion. Some good brands to stick with are the big names Kenwood, Alpine, Polk, JL, etc, and my personal preference Boston. Just make sure you do some listening before buying something and don't let price be a determining quality. Expensive doesn't always mean the best and cheap may not be sub standard quality.
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Re: Rear Deck Speakers Size / Recommendations

I have always been a fan of using the rear decks for a solid mid-bass only and using teh front components for mids and highs. I can't lie though, I am still a fan of a 4 channel on all 4 interior speakers....as long as there is not too much treble coming from the rears.
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I figure I'll get a headunit first, but as for everything else... I'm not really interested in subs. I want good balance but I don't require the loudest setup by any means (like the others in this thread asking the questions). Realistically I just want to be able to run my iPod again in my car lol. So I might just get a headunit... but meh I know the speakers are just gonna blow again and they really aren't that good. So if I was to go the next step, what is anyone's best guess estimate cost wise to do all four speakers and a 4channel amp? Again I want good but hopefully cheap. I don't have alot of extra money these days.

Installation wise it sucks the factory mounts are three hole and don't line up with anything. I don't want to pay some installer huge amounts of money, and I'm not equipped on my own to completely redo everything. So I'll have to enlist the help of an old friend who knows his stuff. So just equipment alone what am I lookin at? Any brand/model suggestions would be appreciated!
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I had to machine the lip to reduce the diameter of my Pyle triaxals for my doors, but boy do they sound sweet compared to the factory mono cone stockos, even with the original oem 6x9's.

Here's the skinny from Crutchfield tech. I called them today. They had the Honda Prelude AFBS, (Acoustic Feed Back System), on the computer screen as I spoke to them. The tech even told me the wiring diagram, wire color info. I asked for, for the rear speakers.

There are basically 2 options. Spend a minimum of $150.00 for special 2 ohm low profile aftermarket 6x9's that are compatable with the AFBS so the stock head unit can continue to utilize the small amp under the rear deck that powers the 2 stock 6x9's OR bypass the oem amp all together and wire in aftermarket 6x9's that are compatable with the rear channel 25W output. (Note the front channel output of the stock head unit is 15W). If you choose to eliminate the oem amp, you must run new multi strand copper wires for both new rear speakers. The tech did recommend that I stick with the 2 ohm speakers. Aftermarket amplifier(s) are optional of course.

I asked the tech, that given what he knew about the Honda AFBS, based on his database of information about our cars, they suggested either using a 4 channel amp with the stock head unit, or upgrading to a more current, more powerful head unit all together.

Not saying we can't cobble something together with the current stock head unit, however, the triaxals in the doors make the rear channel oem 6x9's sound inferior.

I'm trying to justify spending the $$$$$$$ on a better head unit with Aux capability for the IPOD and more power to drive the better quality speakers. I want Sirius capability too so I might as well bite the bullet.
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I have to admit the front triaxals have already spoiled me.......
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Lazer,

For 50-60% off of Kicker, (as long as they fit your application), BUY THEM !!!

I have always had good luck with their up scale variety. The basic cheaper Kickers still utilize paper cones which is a little behind the times, but their next level uses better materials. Sound quality is generally pretty good if not over powered.

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Yea they sold the kickers, all they have left are Polks. I dunno tho i think Im gonna wait to do it properly...gotta say tho I know next to nothing about speakers. Whether its wiring,mounting/installing watevs, and all the different stuff...I got some learning to do. =D
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I've got some learning to do as well. I know audio more when it comes to music (live and recording). Granted I'm only a novice in that dept. but thats where I draw my experiance from. When it comes to installing and running wires around cars... it's more the process than the theory that I need help with. Makin sure I don't ruin the door panel clips and stuff like that. I'll do my research and then amass everything and get to work.

I will probably have an aftermarket head unit installed prior to touching the speaks... might have a pro do that or I might not. I was thinking do alarm and headunit same time but I dunno. Lots of decisions and hopefully not to much money. In the meantime I gotta pay rent and look at shocks and tires so audio isn't the highest priority on the list. Someday though...
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Roger the priorities... I did find a set of 400 W, 2 ohm 6x9 Triaxals with 35 oz. magnets that are supposed to be a direct bolt in upgrade for the stock speakers using the factory amp in Honda Preludes.

If worse comes to worse, I can always eliminate the amp and run new copper to the head unit eliminating the amp. That defeats the AFBS but I've personally never thought much of it in the first place.

In theory it sounds good, but Honda fell short perfecting it in its application in my opinion. Like I said in an earlier post, I put the Pyle triaxals in the doors in place of the stock speakers and man what a difference already.

If the rear speakers sound as good as the Pyles, I'll be a happier Ludder.
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If your looking to spend a little bit for a good set of speakers look into memphis. They have this sexy ass set of speakers my friend just bought. I think its like Memphis C5-1262 or some shiit like that. Its got swivel 3 ways so you can point the speaker towards the back window so it bounces off and thus, more sound to your ears. I recommend getting 3 way speakers if your not looking to get a sub/amp combo.

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