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Manual Tranny Swap Questions.

Hey guys,i just bought a 97 lude with a auto ss tranny and its annoying its jumps all the time and slips ive flushed it and let it warm up.its works well when it tranny has been rann for about 30 mins to get hot but anooying before that and just dont like it.

I am looking for some answers to a few questions cause the guy i bought the car from has a good 5 speed tranny and is putting it back together so i can drop it in and all of it for free.so here are me questions.if you have a link explaining the details please post it.

1-Do you have to change out the center console and find one from a 5 speed 5th gen?

2-what are the complications in the swap such as what rewiring will i have to do?and or what may need to go ahead and plan on buying so i dont get stuck with a one month project.

3-can this project be done in a week or less cause its my only car and will need something to drive asap.

4-Is the swap worth the time and money cause i like to go fast but the auto tranny is just not up to the job in first gear off the line.


Any informations or links for a 5th gen autoss to manual swap would be extremeley helpful.ive been looking for awhile found 4th gens swap but not much on 5th gens.thanks.
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Re: Manual Tranny Swap Questions.

1. NO you do not need to get the 5spd center console they are the same.
2. all you have to rewire is, (iirc) the cruise control. but i don't think its very dificult. if you search around some of the other prelude forums that have been around longer then us you can find info on the wiring.
3. it can be done in a day if you are mechanically inclined enough and you have all the proper parts and tools. again, search around there are how tos and tips and tricks for the swap.
4. it is way worth the time and money.

my home computer has some good links to 5spd swap info, as i'm planning it myself. but unfortunately i'm about 7k miles away from home and won't be back for another 3 weeks. but iirc absoluteprelude.com has some good stuff. preludepower.com might have something but you gotta be really good at searching to find your way through all the BS and locked threads on that site.
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Re: Manual Tranny Swap Questions.

very helpful and mechanically inclined i am.thanx for all your help ill start my search and get going on building the tranny if there is anything you can think of that may help before i start this on the first of jan let me know please.
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Re: Manual Tranny Swap Questions.

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Yes. Definitely worth it. Also I'm not sure on this, but I think you'll have to disable the *auto* function of your ECU (however the kcuf that's done), or just buy a manual ECU and use that.
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Re: Manual Tranny Swap Questions.

What about CV axle or the transaxles do i need to use differant oned for the manual or will my auto matics line up?
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Re: Manual Tranny Swap Questions.

the auto CV's will work. what you need however is that half shaft that sits behind the tranny that connectes the tranny to one of the CV's.
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Re: Manual Tranny Swap Questions.

conects the longer cv on the drivers side correct?
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Re: Manual Tranny Swap Questions.

yea i believe it does connect to the driver side. i haven't looked under my lude in like 3 months so i can't say for sure. but yea i think you got the idea.

FYI i just rememberd, a lot of parts from the 4th gen h22 will work on the 5th gen. off the top of my head, the ones that i can recall are the clutch/flywheel assembly, tranny of course (and anything attached to it), shifter (with slight modification), cables, clutch pedal/master cyl/reservoir assembly, brake/gas pedal assembly. (or you can cut the brake pedal, which looks retarded.) and i do believe the half shaft will work. but mount/bearing that holds it inplace has different part numbers between the 4th and 5th gens. so it might or might not work.

i would also recommend not going through hell and back trying to find clutch line from the MC to the tranny.. have someone custom make one or do it yourself. its surprisingly easy.
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1. NO you do not need to get the 5spd center console they are the same.
2. all you have to rewire is, (iirc) the cruise control. but i don't think its very dificult. if you search around some of the other prelude forums that have been around longer then us you can find info on the wiring.
3. it can be done in a day if you are mechanically inclined enough and you have all the proper parts and tools. again, search around there are how tos and tips and tricks for the swap.
4. it is way worth the time and money.
my home computer has some good links to 5spd swap info, as i'm planning it myself. but unfortunately i'm about 7k miles away from home and won't be back for another 3 weeks. but iirc absoluteprelude.com has some good stuff. preludepower.com might have something but you gotta be really good at searching to find your way through all the BS and locked threads on that site.

That part in red, I don't know I think I'd sell the Auto and buy the 5sp, but since you scored a tranny free then maybe worth it.
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Re: Manual Tranny Swap Questions.

yea this guy ive known forver he took the h22 off a 5speed prelude that had bad damag but motor rebuilt and only has 35-50k but used auto trany on other car.so no i want to take the 5 speed and do same thing.its rune and every thing cause we stuck it in a civic hatch for a while.
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Re: Manual Tranny Swap Questions.

its all a matter of what the person defines as "worth." money wise? might not be. it can get pretty expensive if you don't know what your doing. but if you know, it can be cheep and effective. so in that sense it may very well be. also, in my case, if you have yourself a really well taken care of lude that you've owned for a while. and you don't want to sell it for another lude that you don't know how it was treated... especially now a days now that 5gens are pushing 100k and over. plus mine has well under a 100k. in my case, chances are i'll end up with a prelude in worse condition than mine and still end up paying about the same as what my lude is worth. and as for his case, he got the tranny for free. why the hell not. i got the tranny and almost ALL the parts i need for 300. i can spend another 150 and have everything i need. 450 for all the swap parts is a damn good price considering whole swap kits are going for around 800-1000.
PLUS, yes there's more, PLUS 5th gens are so much more fun to drive in 5spd then auto. but that goes without saying. so when you put it all together, you have a funner (or is it more fun) car, that you spend less than a grand to do so, and there's no questionable reliability.... need i say more? lets just put it this way. its worth it.
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its all a matter of what the person defines as "worth." money wise? might not be. it can get pretty expensive if you don't know what your doing. but if you know, it can be cheep and effective. so in that sense it may very well be. also, in my case, if you have yourself a really well taken care of lude that you've owned for a while. and you don't want to sell it for another lude that you don't know how it was treated... especially now a days now that 5gens are pushing 100k and over. plus mine has well under a 100k. in my case, chances are i'll end up with a prelude in worse condition than mine and still end up paying about the same as what my lude is worth. and as for his case, he got the tranny for free. why the hell not. i got the tranny and almost ALL the parts i need for 300. i can spend another 150 and have everything i need. 450 for all the swap parts is a damn good price considering whole swap kits are going for around 800-1000.
PLUS, yes there's more, PLUS 5th gens are so much more fun to drive in 5spd then auto. but that goes without saying. so when you put it all together, you have a funner (or is it more fun) car, that you spend less than a grand to do so, and there's no questionable reliability.... need i say more? lets just put it this way. its worth it.
Agreed, I am a firm believer in research and talk to people that have done it already they can save you alot of trial and error attempts.
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Re: Manual Tranny Swap Questions.

well gona start soon as i do so i will take pictures and do a step by step for every one to do this in future if they feel the need to.thanx alot for your help guys.
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