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Old 08-06-2008, 09:00 AM
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Intermittent no-start

The previous two mornings my car hasn't started the first two times I've turned the key, but will start the third time(as if the third time is a charm). It will be in neutral, clutch pressed, when I turn the key everything has power but the starter does nothing. There is no tick or other type of noise. The first time it happened it was pretty low on gas and where I park is somewhat inclined, but it did it again today with a full tank. I'm thinking maybe a loose connection to the starter since the radio, lights, and everything else powers up. BTW it has only done it in the morning when I go to first start it. It has not done it after I work for 8 hours. Any suggestions?
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Re: Intermittent no-start

It sounds like your slutch switch. Mine does this less frequently than yours though. I would take a look and see i it is adjustable like many brake switches are if not you may need to replace it. If you have a good mechanic who wont charge you an arm and a leg to test it bring it there before you buy new parts. Or test it yourself with a multimeter.
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Re: Intermittent no-start

I checked All-Data at work to find the location and approximate repair time for the clutch switch. It shows the repair and replace time as including adjustment, which sounds like it is indeed adjustable. Has anyone ever had to adjust theres before?
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Re: Intermittent no-start

Well im sure mine needs it. Its really not all that uncommon for things of that nature to need a small adjustment. It is a very basic push button switch so if it is just a couple thousandths off it wont open the circuit. I cant imagine it taking more than a few minutes with a couple open ended wrenches. Crawl under your dash and push the clutch in. You should be able to see exactly what need to be done to adjust it.
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Re: Intermittent no-start

Thats odd that it only happens after sitting for a while. Could be a loose wire in the tumbler on your column and as you turn the key a few times then the wire gets back to good connection and BLAM car starts... is everything else in the car working ? IE radio interior lights bla bla bla the stuff that could come on with the key?

the clutch switch is a very good place to start though.. dont thing you can adjust them though pretty sure they are set in place.. that could even have a poor connection or just starting to fail on you...
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Re: Intermittent no-start

I looked at it on my lunch break yesterday and i found the switch. Im trying to figure out exactly how the thing operates. When the clutch has no pressure on it, the clutch switch button is fully compressed in. Once you push the clutch in the button extends out and releases contact with the clutch. I dont see how by completely removing contact with the clutch closes a circuit. Shouldnt it be the opposite? Unless there is a spring in there that is compressed whenever the clutch has no pressure on it and by relieving the pressure on the spring closes the circuit to engage the starter. I could see a worn spring being the culprit for only working intermittently if that is indeed how this thing functions. Thanks for all the input so far guys! Im gonna get to the bottom of it.
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