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hello everyone i wanted to know why people adjust the valves in the car?
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I have the valve clearances adjusted because the maintenance schedule says we have to, and knowing that the H22 is an interfearance engine, I'm kinda worried if they're not adjusted properly I'll smash a piston...and my budget doesnt extend to a new H22 bottom end atm.
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hello everyone i wanted to know why people adjust the valves in the car?
After a while, valves lose their original specs and start to tick loudly...ticking because they are out of spec...

Adjusting valves is more like, "tightening" them back to the specs that are shown on the underside of your hood
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So that's why...I never knew that.
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is the some thing i can do myself or send it to honda?
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Adjusting the valves is not for a novice, it's not that hard but not that easy either...

You need a feeler gauge tool and the removal of your valve cover. The online manual(in my sig) will show you how to do it...

..after you've looked at the manual, if you're not up to the task, take it to a mechanic. The Honda dealership will charge you two arms and two legs for that service

FIY - I think, valve lash adjustment/valve clearance adjustment should be done every two years? or 20,000 miles? i forget what the Honda service manual says...someone jump in and correct me...
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i think i should do it then. i have not got it done and i'm at 100,000
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I have a 2000 Lude with 92K on it. How soon will I need a valve adjustment?
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Well, listen to your motor...does it tick like no tomorrow? --see post #4

it's always good to do one if you dont know when it has been done before...
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Saw the post, car doesn't tick YET, but I just wanted to know when they usually start that.
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i am changeing my belts and seals water pump, skunk2 cams, spark plugs and wire, i think i should do the valves
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Mine only started ticking after I had the head rebuilt at Honda. I thought it was maybe just cuz the valves were new and stuff. Now they want $160 to adjust it. Dealerships suck.
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Just busted my valve lash out last weekend... Only found two valves out side of hondas specified tolerances... its not a big job but just remember to take your time with it... And a quick hit of advice if you need a tune up go ahead and do that while your doing the valve lash.. taking the spark plugs out will not allow the motor to compress, SO it will make it easier to spin the motor over by hand and close the next set of valves and so on and so forth... and then you can just pop in your new plugs
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so wht tools do u need to do a valve ajustment
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U need at the very least a good feeler gauge.... I do believe there is a special tool made that makes the wrenching on the valve adjustment a lot easier, but I never had to use such thing....
And the rest of everything u need is a set of hand tools really that's about it.... U may want to change ur valve cover too while u have the cover... Depending on what kind of condition its in....
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FIY - I think, valve lash adjustment/valve clearance adjustment should be done every two years? or 20,000 miles? i forget what the Honda service manual says...someone jump in and correct me...
I think its every 60k 30k if you put ur car under heavy load more then average.....
But IMHO I don't think it need to be done that often... Unless u really romp on ur car a lot......
Something to think about though... Is that although this is a standard maintence listed for this car, more then likley it was not done by the previous owner.. So if your over 100k go ahead and do it. If you notice a louder then normal tick, go ahead and do it. I have just over 100k on mine and only found two valve lashes out of hondas tolernaces....
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the paint is chipping i littel. just got a new gasket in today for it
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My 01 lude just broke 90k last month
Took it to a local tuner shop for the timing belt/water pump service
had them do all that, H23 Manual tensioner conversion, and a valve adjustment
cost ~$900
only 2 valves were off by like .001 and .002 or something minor like that
saved money on labor because the valve cover was already off for the timing belt stuff
I'd definately recommend doing all that stuff at once.
saved like 250$ in labor
I think that's worth it
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^^^ 250 in labor for a valve adjustment!?!?
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^^^ 250 in labor for a valve adjustment!?!?
no that included the labor for the manual tensioner conversion too
had I of done each seperately
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well i was gona forgo the valve adjustment on mine seeing after i took a look in some shop manuals for the h22 it said they need to be at least checked every 15k which is disturbing at best.
ive foregone quite a few ohv adjustemtns but being i needed these valves adjusted right away and was unfamiliar with the dohc adjustem and v-tech at the least, sometimes its better to turn it over to the hands of a profassional.
i didnt really have time to shop around so i went straight to the nearest honda dealer service department and amazingly the service ran only $115 considering this is your motor and means of transportation it seemed to me more of an inshurance fee than a regular tune up.
furthermore if some of you guys are weighing out doing it your self dont let me dischourage you but decide in a timely manner, they told me my valves were not far from lashing, my entire cilinder head was "to tight" as they described it and close to damage. dont forget about the timing belt if that snaps then your in an even bigger hole than just burnt up or damaged valves.......
this has just been my personal experience.......

on a side note the dealer quoted me a astonshingly low $375 for the timing belt and idler belt change <-"like a cam or a harmonic balancer it helps the engine idle smoothly" now while there in there it would be smart to change the water pump and inspect/replace any other damaged or wearing componets of course for this full service they quoted me $565 which is pennys to replacing a whole engine or other damaged parts if the belts do break, espicaly if you dont have the means time knowledge or wilingness to do it your self...

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i good thing is that i'm on house arrest so i have the time..
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