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working on the lude today. changed to the spark plugs. went around the block and the check engine light came on. lucked under the car about one and a half qts of oil on the ground. think it is comine from the block going to take pics .
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Get pics up and try to get some of where it's leaking from. Also try to contain the oil so you can check and see if you see any objects in it, I.E. Tiny metal fragments.
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Make sure the rubber seal is on the Oil Filter. or there is not two of them.
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not leaking from the oil filter. leaking near the timing belt
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Ummm... If it's coming from the block could it be the seals are shot?
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i have not changed them. it is pouring out from behind the timing belt

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that seems to high up to be a crankshaft leak
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check the seals anyway.. they tend to do that.. a pool will develop in one spot..
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Could just be a seal.... I would start with the cheapest things first and check those seals.... But since that oil leak is by the timing belt and if your timing belt got oil on it you need to change it....
the worst leak i have seen on that side of an h22 was when someones balance shaft seal started leaking and the belt flung oil up so it poured out of the top near the valve cover amoungst other places....

What year is your lude? I know they didnt start installing balance shaft retainers till 99-00 and not all 99 or 00 models got balance shaft retainers either...
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its a 2001 when i start the car and jump under it it is pouring in two spots. but i think that it is because of the bottom pulley. how would i fix it if that is the case. the way you were describing the balance shaft leak. it sounds like is it

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its a 2001 when i start the car and jump under it it is pouring in two spots. but i think that it is because of the bottom pulley.
You think its pouring in two spots because of the pulley throwing the oil around? Im really thinking its a balance shaft seal... There isnt much over there... Did you check your timing belt and see if the oil is all over it? you need to pop off the valve cover and belts and get to a point where you can see the seals on that side of the motor and really see where its coming from....
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its a 2001 when i start the car and jump under it it is pouring in two spots. but i think that it is because of the bottom pulley. how would i fix it if that is the case. the way you were describing the balance shaft leak. it sounds like is it
Well if it is your balance shaft seal you got oil all over parts that are very "allergic" to oil and these parts need to be replaced... So when you go into that side of the motor to do you timing belt and things. You need to just replace the seal and go to honda and get a retainer for that balance shaft seal, when you get the rest of the parts.... Im making it sound alot easier then it is... the balance shaft seal can be a pain in the arse just because there isnt much room to work with it...

and just a heads up for everyone else whenever you do a timing belt or are capable of reaching the balance shaft seal area on that motor you need to check for the retainer... Its a 2.68$ part from honda but can cost you alot more if you dont have one put on or your car doest have one already...
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yeah its a PITA. i had my balancer shaft seal blow out of me doin 70... im lucky i didnt ruin anything....
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do you think this is something i can do myself or pay some one
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do you think this is something i can do myself or pay some one
It really depends on your experiance. Do you feel comfortable doing a timing belt yourself? Because that's basicly what you will be doing. You will be replacing the belt and if it hasn't been done before you will aslo be doing the water pump.
If you feel ike you have the area, experiance, ability, tools and time please by all means do it yourself.
I personally just did a timing belt and put the retainer on mine without a hitch. However I feel as though my experiance and knowledge about automotives in general is higher then average.
You feel you can please do you will feel better about the car and yourself in the end. BUT if you have any doubts about what I just said think carfully about the move you want to make.
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all i have is hand tools. i don't have any air tools.
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all i have is hand tools. i don't have any air tools.
You don't need air for this job. I hardly ever use air tools unless I'm fighting myself on rust and corosion n' crud. you may need a specialty tool to put that seal back in but I'm not sure if you can get by without it. Also a good tourqe wrench is a must. Like I said if you can do a timing belt you can do this.
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thank you so much. think i am going to try it. i will keep everyone posted. going to start a 9am. never did a timing belt but good time to find out how.
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well i needed an impact wrench to get the crank bolt off. unless you have the big hex tool to keep the crank from spinning then you should be able to get it off
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what hex tool do i need soican pick it up later
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there was oil all ofer the timeing belt... i am trying to take of the bottom shild. but the bottom pulley will not come off



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you will need either air tools or that tool i told you about to keep the pulley from spinning then you will have to remove all the screws around the outside of the cover. you will have to remove the 2 screws for the motor mount and use a jack to lower the engine slowy to get the timing belt on/off.

try to get all the arrows for the timing facing up so it will be at TDC before you take the belt off.
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do i have to take of the frount motor mounts. to lower it down. it there is oil on every thing do i need to replace it.
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just remove the two bolts. you dont have to remove the whole mount...but put a jack under the oil pan before you remove them

you will want

tensioner
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balacer shaft seal
cams seals
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i think thats about it....
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there are three bolts hold the rubber mount on do i have to take them off two


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i just wanted to say thank you for helping me with this. you and poohbear. i am very new to this. so thank you it means a lot
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no problem man i had to do it after i had my lude for a month so i know where your at.

did you lower the jack slowly and did the engine drop?? if not you might just remove the mount it if it wont drop

whatever is the easiest way to get the belt off and on
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yes but could not get the bolt off did not have that tool. might not get it intill next week.
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