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Old 06-25-2008, 10:05 PM
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Cam Gear help

Ok, for some reason I like the fact that my car is NA (200 everyday driver) but I still want a little more power under the hood. Right now it has CA intake, header, flowmaster high flow cat and cat back exhaust (like some of might already know). I was thinking of getting cam gears when I did my timing belt replacement but this "mustang co-worker" told me that would be too much for an everyday car and I'd be better off not doing anything to the motor. I "MUCH" prefer advice from this site than "hear says" from everyday people so, tell me what you'll think I should do, cam gear's or no cam gears???
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Old 06-25-2008, 11:14 PM
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For the stocker cams or aftermarket ones? I can see it making a difference on the stock ones, but not a huge one, and I would imagine it would need a tune afterwards.
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Aftermarket cams. I plan on doing a tune afterwards, as a matter of fact I was gonna do a tune today after installing my fuel filter, but they were booked.
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Aftermarket cams. I plan on doing a tune afterwards, as a matter of fact I was gonna do a tune today after installing my fuel filter, but they were booked.
wat kind of tuning you doing since you just got the fuel filter? iam curious cuze i just bought my aem fuel filter and want to put it on.
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if you want a little more go without sacrificing drivability maybe you should go with some type s cams...if you start messing around with anything but that you're going to need to upgrade your valves and springs...

the thing is you're really not going to see much of an improvement...maybe a couple of horse power...my advice, forget about a NA setup and strap on a JRSC, buy a used one and you're going to be adding the most HP for your money hands down it will come with everything you need right out of the box
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wat kind of tuning you doing since you just got the fuel filter? iam curious cuze i just bought my aem fuel filter and want to put it on.
I'm not sure yet, gonna talk to the tuner see what's best.
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the thing is you're really not going to see much of an improvement...maybe a couple of horse power...my advice, forget about a NA setup and strap on a JRSC, buy a used one and you're going to be adding the most HP for your money hands down it will come with everything you need right out of the box[/QUOTE]

Ok so then what is the best thing to do to an everyday driver to get a little more out of it without sacrficing drivability?
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i think the best mod is going to be a jrsc, pick one up used
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Or check my sig. I've got some parts you need for an NA build. Skunk2 Pro1 cams and cam gears. You need them...yes you do. Haha
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The problem with this is that the H22 is tuned and built verrry well by honda. Bolt-ons dont do much. I dont think ive ever seen a N/A prelude with more than 300 horse. If you want noticeable power your going to have to do a new IM maybe, porting?, bigger injectors, Cams, cam gears, and a real good tune. But for a N/A setup like that its just going to bring your gas mileage down, and in all reality, no build will ever be reliable as the stock build.

A N/A build (to get like 50 more whp) will cost about the same as a supercharger.
The supercharger will add more horsepower than the N/A build for the same price.
A turbo build, wont be as realiabe as a DD as either of those unless you spend double to do it right

There are alot of paths, and mostly everyone wants to keep thier lude as a DD, and not all paths are right for a DD car.

MY plans are to get a 5th gen for a daily driver, and keep it mostly stock, and modify my 4th gen till it leaves my balls behind at take off
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this may be a slight high-jack but i think it is still fits here....so let me get this straight, is everyone agreeing that the safest, most cost-effective upgrade for a dd is a supercharger??? this is interesting to me b/c i am in the same boat as Snakerb but i dont really hear anything at all about superchargers and h22s. what kinda pros and cons are we talking?
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I have always heard that the more you toy with your cams upgrading wise the less you will be able to use it as a DD because of the stress on other parts. Not sure if true, adn on the supercharger part waht we looking at here for gain? i interested as well, was thinking turbo, but i kno i would be putting a good amount of money. also another question about superchargers..bolt ons, and possible build ons..or just strap and go? and if there are 2 types what is different in gain and reliablity? lol gotta admit some good questions..kinda new to this stuff i normally only do appearance mods and stuff like that all my performance mods are done by my bro and he only did simple stuff.
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I have no personal experience with a JRSC for the h22 or ugrading an h22 N/A but ive been learning about preludes since i was 14 and i just turned 20. anyways. Now im not saying that a supercharger is the BEST way to get power out of a DD. All I meant was that depending on money, time, parts, tuning and other things; a turbo, supercharger, or N/A can be as reliable as possible as far as builds go. But they can also be very unreliable. basically Anything past stock is going to sacrafice a DD's integrity. It was designed by verry smart people who know alot more than us remember?

A jackson racing supercharger, with a good tune, will throw you up around 260-300 whp. Depending on what size pulley you use of course. You dont need a intercooler for lower psi applications so it pretty much is slap the supercharger on, new pulleys and crap and tune. And doing internals isnt necessary unless you have the money for it and want them for peace of mind and/or want to make a real powerful supercharge build. And im pretty sure tehre is only one type of JRSC for the h22. They are pretty reliable themselves, i dont hear to many nightmares, there are even a handful of them on this forum

Cams do put stress into an engine. anything past stock isnt meant to be there. without a tune cams can do damage. high end cams can do even more damage if you dont upgrade fuel system and internals (valves, valve springs, guides, pretty much the whole head will be stressed the fuc out)

A turbo is going to be expensive if you want to do it right. The h22 dont like boost at all. too high of a compression. to fix compression you need diff pistons. and we have cylinder sleeves that only take well to our stock pistons so we need to upgrade those. pretty much to boost a h22 properly you need to build the bottom end and make sure your head is in tip top shape. and then go get an expensive tune by a guy who knows what hes doing.
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ok so strapping a JRSC adn having it tuned. What extra parts would need to be upgraded to maintian reliablity that is completely nessacery?
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I just bought some skunk 2 6 bolt adjustable cam gears.
And I plan on a tune in the next few weeks.

I have heard that it is possible to squeeze out a little more power out of the H22 (w/bolt-ons) with a minor cam adjustment and tune.
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