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Old 06-15-2008, 07:21 PM
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First post, although I have been trolling around for a while trying to get as much inforamtion as I can before I bought my first lude. You guys have a great forum here and it has been very helpfull. So maybe you guys can help me out with this little problem I seem to be having.

First off a little background about my lude and myself. I am not a stranger to mechanics and cars, Iv done a few buggy builds and have been running offroad jeeps for some time now. I just recently made the jump for jeep to lude. So although some of the questions I have may seem pretty noobish please bare in mind I am just very new to this car.

As for the car, well she is a gorgeous 2000 silver base with 105k. 5-speed with eibochs and takiko struts (hope i spelled that correctly) apexi exhaust, OEM spoiler and a vtec controler. Interior is in good to excellent condition and I paid 6347.11 for her and I thought that was a pretty fair deal. The folks who owned her prior just had another child making 3 total and had to sell the car. bla bla bla.

So now on to my issue, I seem to have an oil leak I cleaned off what I could of the motor and let her idle for a while with some card board underneith to try and find the leak. At idle the car does not seem to leak. I can only notice the leak if I drive her for a little while. I did my best to climb up undernieth her and find the source but im a big guy and its a looooowww car.

I did determine that the leak is coming from the back underneith the intake manifold somwhere, but as to where exactly I have no idea. most of the oil seems to be just above the exhaust. Although the leak could be coming from somwhere else and just working its way over.

So my question is this, what should I be looking for? What exactly is behing the motor that could possibly be leaking like that? Should I be worried its coming from the head as it does seem to be pretty wet on the back side? what are some common leaks that develop?

I will be doing to some work to her this following week as I should have access to a lift; timing belt, oil change, a few other things. So what is it exaclty that could possibly be leaking back there, best case scenerio? worst case?

Sorry about the long boring drawn out post, but I wanted to make sure you guys have all the information you need to help me. So thanks alot in advance.
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Old 06-15-2008, 08:05 PM
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Does it look like it is dripping on the flex pipe the think that looks like a chines finger trap and is it just a lil drip or a good bit? It's been a while since i been under a lude but i think the oil filter is about over the exhaust and could leak. When you do the oil i would throw in a can of engine restore and stop leak.
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Thanks guys for the fast response. Yeah it seems to be just abouve the flex pipe but its wet all over, it seems to drip on the rack and pinion a little. Iv never really been a big fan of any quick fixes in a bottle like stop leak, but thanks for the advice. If I cant seem to locate the leak or if the leak is a tough fix i might give that stuff a try. Would it be best to change out the oil as she needs it real bad then try degreasing the motor again see if it was the filter?

And as for the cam seals shouldnt I be replacing those anyway with the timing belt? I mean there just seems to be so much sweat from all the horse power that motor is creating

It seems to be leaking from the rear valve cover a bit too, but like i said before I will replcing that when I do the timing belt.

Also I whent out just a moment ago to check the cardboard I placed under the car. It seems the leak as somhow moved ha. I now have a drip from the driver rear of the motor. And oil around the point where the valve cover covers the part of the timing belt. Its not power stearing fulid I can defintly smell the oil.
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Might just be a bad valve gasket. restore save me an ass load. I had some valve o right or something that would leak to wear my exhaust was covered in burn oil and it fixed it only 4 buck and could save for whats the worse that can happen loss 4 buck.
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Might just be a bad valve gasket. restore save me an ass load. I had some valve o right or something that would leak to wear my exhaust was covered in burn oil and it fixed it only 4 buck and could save for whats the worse that can happen loss 4 buck.
I agree 100% but I would much rather fix the issue out right. With bottle fixes I always feel they are temporary and could reacure fairly fast. I could just be really anal about my cars though

Im pretty sure the oil filter is leaking a little and has been for a while even though I can see the darn thing. However I just got the lude 2 days ago and really havnet had a chance to fix any problems with her yet.

What is the bundle of wires going to the block under the intake manifold drivers side of the motor. I noticed this grouping of wires (looks like some sort of sensor maybe oil pressure?) is pretty wet. The drip is drivers side just to the side of the flex pipe under the intake manifold. It seems to be gathering on that grouping of wires and oozing back then dripping. As the drops are hitting after the rack and pinion. The wires are closesest to the number 2 intake port from drivers side near some power stearing hoses. Not even sure if they plug into the block I cant get my head down that far (i have a fat head) But that would be the closest thing to leak as far as I can tell.

I dont think this is from the valve cover though. THe oil is around the valve cover but I cleaned most of that earlier today and it is a very slow leak and hasnt really had time to work enough to hit the side of the motor even.
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Do what i do when i can't see in thear use a cam and stick it down thear don't use the flash tho just a drop light shinning from the top and if you don't have one ask mom sis gf for a mirror to see if you can get a better look.
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Do what i do when i can't see in thear use a cam and stick it down thear don't use the flash tho just a drop light shinning from the top and if you don't have one ask mom sis gf for a mirror to see if you can get a better look.
Yeah ill get a good look at it tommorrow when I have her in the air. But no idea what that grouping of wires would be? Sensor maybe? where is the oil pressure sensore? is there one
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if it is directly above the flex pipe...it is probly your oil cooler seal. that is behind the oil filter. every honda leaks there but its an easy fix you can do it while changing the oil. just remove the nut that the oil filter screws onto

the other spot you are talking about is probly your cam PLUG check this thread out

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if it is directly above the flex pipe...it is probly your oil cooler seal. that is behind the oil filter. every honda leaks there but its an easy fix you can do it while changing the oil. just remove the nut that the oil filter screws onto

the other spot you are talking about is probly your cam PLUG check this thread out

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Sounds good but what kind of seal are we talking about leaking with the oil cooler? Are we talking universal o-ring or will I have to go to honda to get the seal?
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