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Old 05-01-2008, 09:49 AM
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Upper ball joint

Ok so i am saving up for a jdm front clip and dont want to spend any money on things that will be on the clip. the rubber around the ball joint is busted open how long will i have before it goes out. and will i be able to use the one that i will get on the jdm front clip
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There's no way to say yet whether the new one on the front clip is in good or bad condition... you'll just have to wait and see...

As far as the boot around your ball joint, jack your car up and pack that ball joint with fresh grease like every other month or so, and it SHOULD last you until you can get it replaced... How long has it been like that, do you know? Are you experiencing any driveability problems? Once that joint gets dry it'll start to wear down fast... also you don't want dirt getting into that boot, so pack it with some fresh grease and get it replaced as soon as you can. If the ball joint is in good condition still, you might be able to get away with just replacing the boot.
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yeh the boot just now busted, i check all my stuff about every week while im at my dads. ill get some fresh grease while im over there today.
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Re: Upper ball joint

hey guys i decided to try and do the ball joint myself today and its turning into a disaster. I have everything apart and have poped the bottom of the ball joint free now how so i do i actually pop the whole thing out ? The drive shaft is in the way. Do i remove the drive shaft as well ? I think i already poped the inner side of the drive shaft out accidently. Anyways let me know if someone can help.

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Re: Upper ball joint

you might ass well pop the axle out now, but you need a ball joint tool to do these. or and air hammer.
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i have an air hammer and i have the ball joint tool how do i pop the drive shaft out properly ? how do i remove it from the rotor side ?
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i have an air hammer and i have the ball joint tool how do i pop the drive shaft out properly ? how do i remove it from the rotor side ?
you need a 32 mm axle nut socket, after you remove that, it should just slide out of the knuckle, you might need to spray some wd40 and tap the center of it with a hammer, just be sure not to hit the treads, put a punch in the center of the driveshaft if you can and hit that.
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alright man thnaks ill go give it a try
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well just picked up a 32 mm socket and its way to small i think its going to be closer to a 35 or 36 mm
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Wasn't there a recall on the ball joints? The original owner of mine replaced them. He gave me all paper work on the recall and stuff. If there was a recall on the 92, couldn't you still get them replaced?
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Re: Upper ball joint

You have to take a socket that is about the same size as the ball joint and set it with the bolt end into the socket. Next is the fun part (because at this time you'll be sick off looking at this thing and want to hit it) take a bfh (aka big f**king hammer) and give the a-arm a good wack and it should just come out, oh and make sure you don't smack the ball joint but the area around it man.
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You have to take a socket that is about the same size as the ball joint and set it with the bolt end into the socket. Next is the fun part (because at this time you'll be sick off looking at this thing and want to hit it) take a bfh (aka big f**king hammer) and give the a-arm a good wack and it should just come out, oh and make sure you don't smack the ball joint but the area around it man.

sounds like how i work on my car.

but, how do you keep the control arm from hanging down?
or don't you?
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well just picked up a 32 mm socket and its way to small i think its going to be closer to a 35 or 36 mm
sorry man, i slipped up and was thinking of a civic. seriously sorry. it's 36 mm
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alright guys thanks for all the help, but im getting to that point of where
i now wish i had brought this to a shop to get done. This is really becoming a nightmare but ill tell you im sure learning about the 95 prelude lol

So anyways ill tell you guys what i have done. I first took the caliper bracket and caliper off, then i removed the wishbone bolt and nut. I then removed the pin and nut at the bottom of the ball joint. Then i used my special little ball joint tool to pop the bottom of the ball joint free so i could get it out of the arm thats mounted to the bottom of it. I then moved everything a little too far i guess and pulled the the driveshaft out of the tranny. I was pissed at this point because i couldnt get it to go back in. So off came the boot so i could see exactly how it had to go in. After about a half hour of F***king
around with it it finally slid in. So i was happy i got it back in and went and grabbed a beer and then came back for round 2

This was where i ran into my biggest problem yet. The nice big 36mm nut thats on the outside of the rotor will not come off no matter what. Im pretty sure i have to remove this to get the drive shaft out so i can then somehow pop the ball joint through. Iv tried heating it up and even using a 3 foot bar for leverage and it doesnt carck loose. I sprayed it with some liquid wrench and rost off and am leaving it overnight to see what happens.

do you guys have any ideas on how to get this baby off ?
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alright guys thanks for all the help, but im getting to that point of where
i now wish i had brought this to a shop to get done. This is really becoming a nightmare but ill tell you im sure learning about the 95 prelude lol

So anyways ill tell you guys what i have done. I first took the caliper bracket and caliper off, then i removed the wishbone bolt and nut. I then removed the pin and nut at the bottom of the ball joint. Then i used my special little ball joint tool to pop the bottom of the ball joint free so i could get it out of the arm thats mounted to the bottom of it. I then moved everything a little too far i guess and pulled the the driveshaft out of the tranny. I was pissed at this point because i couldnt get it to go back in. So off came the boot so i could see exactly how it had to go in. After about a half hour of F***king
around with it it finally slid in. So i was happy i got it back in and went and grabbed a beer and then came back for round 2

This was where i ran into my biggest problem yet. The nice big 36mm nut thats on the outside of the rotor will not come off no matter what. Im pretty sure i have to remove this to get the drive shaft out so i can then somehow pop the ball joint through. Iv tried heating it up and even using a 3 foot bar for leverage and it doesnt carck loose. I sprayed it with some liquid wrench and rost off and am leaving it overnight to see what happens.

do you guys have any ideas on how to get this baby off ?
use tractor trailer tools...but that didnt work for me so i used a 12 foot pipe on the end as a breaker bar. it still took a looong time.

yea those axles you really have to use some force to get em in.

I take it your doing the lower ball joint?
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3 foot pipe???


nononononoooooo. you need a 6 foot pipe, and put your ENTIRE body weight into it!!!!
no penetrating fluid, torching, or any other tricks necessary.


i'm telling you, that pipe will become your BEST friend the first time you get the axle nut off. you'll use it for EVERYTHING!
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wow so i guess im not the only one getting frustrated about how much effort it takes to twist the thing off. Actually it feels like something else is going to break first before the nut comes off. i guess tomorrow im going to have to grab a bigger bar or a very very serious impact wrench although mine is a very expensive impact wrench and puts out some serious tourque and still the dam thing wont come off. I remember the last time i had somethng like this was on my 91 civic si trying to get the crank bolt off must be a honda thing.

Hey if all else fails ill put the socket on it with a 6 foot bar jack up the other side of the car, and start the car and run in reverse with the bar pressed against the driveway. if that doesnt break it free then i quit.
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Actually it feels like something else is going to break first before the nut comes off.
forgot to mention i actually broke a 1" socket trying to get mine off.


That driving backwards thing is a good idea
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sounds like how i work on my car.

but, how do you keep the control arm from hanging down?
or don't you?
I took it all of the way out man. hell its only three bolts and with a ball joint seperator it came out in like 10 mins with hand tools.
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alright guys thanks for all the help, but im getting to that point of where
i now wish i had brought this to a shop to get done. This is really becoming a nightmare but ill tell you im sure learning about the 95 prelude lol

So anyways ill tell you guys what i have done. I first took the caliper bracket and caliper off, then i removed the wishbone bolt and nut. I then removed the pin and nut at the bottom of the ball joint. Then i used my special little ball joint tool to pop the bottom of the ball joint free so i could get it out of the arm thats mounted to the bottom of it. I then moved everything a little too far i guess and pulled the the driveshaft out of the tranny. I was pissed at this point because i couldnt get it to go back in. So off came the boot so i could see exactly how it had to go in. After about a half hour of F***king
around with it it finally slid in. So i was happy i got it back in and went and grabbed a beer and then came back for round 2

This was where i ran into my biggest problem yet. The nice big 36mm nut thats on the outside of the rotor will not come off no matter what. Im pretty sure i have to remove this to get the drive shaft out so i can then somehow pop the ball joint through. Iv tried heating it up and even using a 3 foot bar for leverage and it doesnt carck loose. I sprayed it with some liquid wrench and rost off and am leaving it overnight to see what happens.

do you guys have any ideas on how to get this baby off ?

NO NO NO NO.

1st: take out the two bolts that hold the upper A-arm out from under the hood

2nd: take out the cotter pin and remove the 17mm bolt that hold the ball joint

3rd: use a ball joint seperator (bad spelling I know) and smack it with a bfh to get the ball joint lose (this tool can be found at a auto parts store for like 10-15 bucks)

4th: once you have the full arm sitting in front of you on the ground remove the C-clip from the top (aka the flush part of the ball joint)

5th: now take socket the size of the ball joint and place it with the bolt end of the ball joint in it, then smack it with the biggest hammer you can find on the outer edge of it.

Hope the helps man you have made this a bigger pain in the A$$ then it needed to be.
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hey mizlude i think were talking about 2 different things here. Im taking out the ball joint that sits directly under my drivers side driveshaft. It sits directly behind the rotor and sort of hides there under it. Iv talked to a couple mechs. in the area and everyone says the same thing that its a 2 hour job and the driveshaft must come out.

I think maybe you were talking about the upper ball joint which i can see would be easy to replace. Im talking about the one that hides under the driveshaft right below where the driveshaft meets the rotor.
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