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Old 09-16-2017, 05:37 PM
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94 S drive shaft issues

I'm looking at my car and wondering "How the hell did this happen?" I bought this car from a friend who got it from a kid in TX. It's been lowered and abused and worked on by idiots. Has a new motor with less than 5K mi. on it. Almost everything else is 23 years old. I replaced the front shocks and new coilover tubes and have decided to get Energy Suspension bushings for the shocks. I thought replacing a bushing was fairly easy but when I tore into the lower shock bushing on the control arm I didn't realize what i was getting myself into. What I thought would take a couple of hours has now been almost 2 weeks! I tried to do it on the car but couldn't get the outer metal race out so I decided to take the control arm off like these guys in the YouTube vids. That lead to me breaking the lower ball joint which led to a few other assorted adventures. However, while trying to replace the ball joint I, by mistake, pulled out the outer shaft on the drivers side. It was only hanging on by the boot. I tried to stick it back in but it wasn't having any of that. So, I removed the bands and exposed the empty socket where the shaft had been previously. I had pulled out the spider and the rollers. I managed to get it back in, put the boots back on with zip ties, and ran into the house where my manual is on the computer and started reading about drive shafts. It was confusing. Since I got it back in I assumed everything was fine and finished the ball joint and put the thing back together. When I started the car and put it in gear it wouldn't move. I tried a couple of times to let out the clutch but it didn't move so I turned it off and went back to the manual. I'm still confused. What did I do wrong and how do I correct it? I'm starting to love this little car and have big plans for it. Can someone please help?
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Re: 94 S drive shaft issues

reassemble it correctly

have you downloaded cars manual?
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Re: 94 S drive shaft issues

Yes, I have the actual manual from Honda in PDF. It says when removing to mark the spider and replace in the same way. My problem is I wasn't intending to remove the spider and the boot was on so I have no idea in which configuration the spider was in. So haven't done anything else to it. My thinking was that if I didn't touch it I couldn't mess it up anymore than it already is. I've been watching YouTube and I finally saw a vid where someone rebuilds the inner joint. It doesn't look like mine but I can see some similarities. It has been raining here so I haven't touched it today but I am about to go out there and try to remove it and see what I can accomplish on the porch. I went out there to get more info and I found that I could turn both wheels(they spin in opposite directions) with the car in neutral and when I put it into 1st, they still spin and the engine doesn't move. When I tried to drive it yesterday, it felt like the brake was on or that I hadn't removed the chocks(which I had). I feel confident enough now to try and remove it like I did the first time and make an attempt at repair.
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Re: 94 S drive shaft issues

When the CV joint pulled out, only half of it came out. I had to take off the boot to get it off the car. Today I pulled it back out and cleaned out the grease from the rollers and the spider. From the spider down the shaft looked good. I removed the rollers and after cleaning them I went to my manual and read up on r&r driveshaft. I understood everything except where it says to "fit the rollers to the spider with the high shoulders facing the outward." I am looking at the rollers and don't see anything that could be a "high shoulder". I would upload pics just as soon as I can figure out how.
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Re: 94 S drive shaft issues

I found the problem that kept me from moving after I put everything back together. The brake caliper. I don't know why yet but when I find out I will post the solution. In the meantime, Here is the link to the youtube video that I found to be the most helpful. The cv joint was nothing like mine but the concept just clicked.
https://youtu.be/LsytyVzokBg
Or this one:

The kicker was that it was very simple.
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Re: 94 S drive shaft issues

Ok, the problem of why my car won't move after replacing my front struts w/new lowering coilover sleeves and springs, new polyurethane shock bushings and lower ball joint(left side) and having to re-stab my cv joint is: the brake caliper bracket. It seems that when I tighten it, not even tight enough for torque spec, it binds with the rotor and won't let the wheel move. I have to loosen it enough to wiggle before it will turn. I didn't see any shims or spacers upon removal or on the ground so why does it bind? I tried removing the caliper and bolting the bracket on by itself to no avail. I've looked in my manual but it has nothing on the bracket except that it exists and the torque specs. Nothing about installing it or removing it, absolutely nothing. How do I install my brakes so that the tire will turn?
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