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Where are all the good looking 4 lug wheels?

Guys I'm looking to buy my first set of wheels and tires. Don't know where where to start, but what I can tell you is I'm into the stanced look. I guess it takes camber kits to get that look, I don't know if it wears the tires down being bent into the wheel well like that or not. But I know I want something at least to look like this.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...IMG_8065_1.png

I would rather have a lower profile tire than this, but this is really close to the look I want. Not the specific wheels. I want to know where you guys think I should look for a good set I might like and also for the tires. I don't know anyhting about tire stretching, tire sizing or any of that stuff so please bare with me. I just know that the smallest number on the tires are the wheel size in inches lol!

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Re: Where are all the good looking 4 lug wheels?

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Read this: Recommended Tire size & Offsets!
and look here: RIMTUCK.com - Search Results - Thumbnails
and put some numbers in here: Online Wheel and Tyre Fitment Calculator. Offset, Tyre Stretch and Speedo Error | Will They Fit

Apologies first of all if that is a members car, I don't recognise it so I've made some assumptions/generalisations.

Starting with the basics. Wheels are measured in diameter, width and offset, PCD and bore. Diameter and width are obvious, PCD you get is 4x114.3 on our cars, bore is the size of the big hole in the middle, but offset is the one everyone ignores. Offset is a measurement of the back face of the hub to the centreline of the wheel. Play around with a wheel offset calculator and you start to see this number is very important, for instance a 16x8 +35 will also have less inner clearance than a 16x7 +35 since that extra inch of width is added to both faces of the wheel as the offsets are the same. Prelude's have a fair amount of inner clearance but not so much outer clearance, so higher positive offsets are preferred. Tire size is measured as profile width, profile height, diameter and generally then a load rating and speed rating. So for instance, a 225/45R16 89W has a 225mm profile width (note not tread width but the overall width, the tread width varies between manufacturers), a 45% profile height which is measured as a ratio of the section width (in this case 101.25mm), is a to fit a 16" rim, R means it's a radial, there are other designations but this is the most common for street use, an 89 load rating which = 1279lb per tire (so the higher number the better) and W is a speed rating meaning in this case the tire is rated up to 168mph. There are some other things you might find in there such as a Z or parenthesis but this is not common on street tires, these usually indicate very high speed ratings.

You can do anything you like with a 4G but be prepared to do some heavy modifications if that's the look you're after. You'll have to at least roll the fenders and probably pull them too if you go really wide. You don't always HAVE to get camber kits (be it adjustable ball joints or UCA bushes) depending on how low you go, THAT low and you probably will though. 2-3 inches of drop would probably be ok without but would need checking. There is no stock camber adjustment on 4th gens (except on the back in 4WS models only) so you have to buy something aftermarket and the choices are pretty limited, I have my eye on the Moog adjustable ball joints personally. Camber that aggressive will wear out your tires much quicker than normal and you will have less grip from having a smaller contact patch to the road, a degree or so might be ok though since the tire will still sit fairly flat on the road. It's a judgement call you'll need to make for yourself.

The main advantage of the Prelude's double wishbone suspension is that it maintains a pretty linear camber throughout the suspension travel, it's not like MacPherson strut that will tip the top of the wheel out under heavy cornering, so if you add camber then it will always be out. The main reason to get a camber kit on our cars is generally to bring the wheel back in line with factory specs when slammed. In the case of that pic they look to have added extra camber to get the top of the wheel to tuck without rubbing as much.

Slammed, herrafrush, ghettoflush, mexiflush, stanced etc. etc. Doesn't matter what you call it. It is a lifestyle choice not just a car modification. Do you park in a carpark, go up steep hills, go over speed humps, carry passengers, like not being pulled over by cops?? Well, not any more.

If you are serious then there are wide, low offset wheels available in 4x114.3. Lots of people seem to go with XXR when after this look so that might be a good place to start. You might have trouble sourcing JDM wheels in that look though, they don't seem to interested in mega-low offsets in 4-stud. You could always get a 3-piece rim and turn the face over though.

As far as tire size goes, height can quickly become a problem with larger wheels. I'm a big fan of trying to stick to the stock overall tire diameter, I like the car to handle and accelerate like it was designed and I also like my speed-o to be right, but I've seen guys just throw on 20's and screw the consequences. If you like to play by the rules then the larger diameter you go, the lower profile you need which starts getting really tough over 18". IMO you should match tire width to rim width, i.e. a 205 or 215 on a 7", 225 on an 8", 245 on a 9" etc. A common solution when stancing (I just died a little inside using that term) is to stretch a narrower tire over a larger rim, meaning the wheel can poke more but the tire will tuck in under the fender, and hopefully by the time the wheel passes the fender (if it ever gets that far) it has tucked in enough to clear too. What is the sense in stretching a 195 tire over an 8.5" rim on a car that has 205's stock? Buggered if I know, it's not about performance just looks. It's the same reason people with turbo's like to hear it dose.

I suggest you try to find out more about what you are trying to achieve. Find some wheels you like. Find some member's rides you like the look of ask them (if they're still around) what they had to do to get their wheels to fit.
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Buy my te37 replicas and stretch a 185 on them, they 7 inches wide, and slam it as far as you can go with like 1/2 inch spacers
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Groan.

Read this: Recommended Tire size & Offsets!
and look here: RIMTUCK.com - Search Results - Thumbnails
and put some numbers in here: Online Wheel and Tyre Fitment Calculator. Offset, Tyre Stretch and Speedo Error | Will They Fit

Apologies first of all if that is a members car, I don't recognise it so I've made some assumptions/generalisations.

Starting with the basics. Wheels are measured in diameter, width and offset, PCD and bore. Diameter and width are obvious, PCD you get is 4x114.3 on our cars, bore is the size of the big hole in the middle, but offset is the one everyone ignores. Offset is a measurement of the back face of the hub to the centreline of the wheel. Play around with a wheel offset calculator and you start to see this number is very important, for instance a 16x8 +35 will also have less inner clearance than a 16x7 +35 since that extra inch of width is added to both faces of the wheel as the offsets are the same. Prelude's have a fair amount of inner clearance but not so much outer clearance, so higher positive offsets are preferred. Tire size is measured as profile width, profile height, diameter and generally then a load rating and speed rating. So for instance, a 225/45R16 89W has a 225mm profile width (note not tread width but the overall width, the tread width varies between manufacturers), a 45% profile height which is measured as a ratio of the section width (in this case 101.25mm), is a to fit a 16" rim, R means it's a radial, there are other designations but this is the most common for street use, an 89 load rating which = 1279lb per tire (so the higher number the better) and W is a speed rating meaning in this case the tire is rated up to 168mph. There are some other things you might find in there such as a Z or parenthesis but this is not common on street tires, these usually indicate very high speed ratings.

You can do anything you like with a 4G but be prepared to do some heavy modifications if that's the look you're after. You'll have to at least roll the fenders and probably pull them too if you go really wide. You don't always HAVE to get camber kits (be it adjustable ball joints or UCA bushes) depending on how low you go, THAT low and you probably will though. 2-3 inches of drop would probably be ok without but would need checking. There is no stock camber adjustment on 4th gens (except on the back in 4WS models only) so you have to buy something aftermarket and the choices are pretty limited, I have my eye on the Moog adjustable ball joints personally. Camber that aggressive will wear out your tires much quicker than normal and you will have less grip from having a smaller contact patch to the road, a degree or so might be ok though since the tire will still sit fairly flat on the road. It's a judgement call you'll need to make for yourself.

The main advantage of the Prelude's double wishbone suspension is that it maintains a pretty linear camber throughout the suspension travel, it's not like MacPherson strut that will tip the top of the wheel out under heavy cornering, so if you add camber then it will always be out. The main reason to get a camber kit on our cars is generally to bring the wheel back in line with factory specs when slammed. In the case of that pic they look to have added extra camber to get the top of the wheel to tuck without rubbing as much.

Slammed, herrafrush, ghettoflush, mexiflush, stanced etc. etc. Doesn't matter what you call it. It is a lifestyle choice not just a car modification. Do you park in a carpark, go up steep hills, go over speed humps, carry passengers, like not being pulled over by cops?? Well, not any more.

If you are serious then there are wide, low offset wheels available in 4x114.3. Lots of people seem to go with XXR when after this look so that might be a good place to start. You might have trouble sourcing JDM wheels in that look though, they don't seem to interested in mega-low offsets in 4-stud. You could always get a 3-piece rim and turn the face over though.

As far as tire size goes, height can quickly become a problem with larger wheels. I'm a big fan of trying to stick to the stock overall tire diameter, I like the car to handle and accelerate like it was designed and I also like my speed-o to be right, but I've seen guys just throw on 20's and screw the consequences. If you like to play by the rules then the larger diameter you go, the lower profile you need which starts getting really tough over 18". IMO you should match tire width to rim width, i.e. a 205 or 215 on a 7", 225 on an 8", 245 on a 9" etc. A common solution when stancing (I just died a little inside using that term) is to stretch a narrower tire over a larger rim, meaning the wheel can poke more but the tire will tuck in under the fender, and hopefully by the time the wheel passes the fender (if it ever gets that far) it has tucked in enough to clear too. What is the sense in stretching a 195 tire over an 8.5" rim on a car that has 205's stock? Buggered if I know, it's not about performance just looks. It's the same reason people with turbo's like to hear it dose.

I suggest you try to find out more about what you are trying to achieve. Find some wheels you like. Find some member's rides you like the look of ask them (if they're still around) what they had to do to get their wheels to fit.
Wow thanks man you are a real teacher lol. I really appreciate that insight because I never knew any of this stuff. I'm actually still reading up on the links you provided...lol it's quite a lot to grasp but I'm trying.

But first off, where in the hell would I be able to take some wheels and tires that I want to stance on my car? Like, who's going to do this suspension work and checking of the camber and all that good stuff to insure proper suspension on the wheels and tires? I'm sure I can't do it alone lmao.

Anyway, I've been looking at different wheels that I really like and here is a set that I'm really really feeling...in the 17"

https://www.wheelplususa.com/wheels/STR/517/Titanium

What do you guys think of those?


But I am actually into keeping he car as stock as possible, but these cool looking wheels just have me up off my seat in arousal lmao! I really like the stretched tire look but I'm sure as you stated above, there is many things to consider when choosing to uptake these mods. And my car is one that has always had to go over speed bumps...that's a big "Uh oh"...

But I agree with you, this is something I need to continue to find out exactly what I really want and the look I really want to go for. As well as what will be fit my lifestyle right now.

How does ppl even go over speed bumps with cars so low and wheels stanced so intensely lol? Even without stanced wheels, cars with big lips can get hella low to the ground and it seems as if it's impossible not to scrape something trying to go over a speed bump and even pulling in and out of some driveways.
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Buy my te37 replicas and stretch a 185 on them, they 7 inches wide, and slam it as far as you can go with like 1/2 inch spacers
Something to consider! So stressful bro lol. College is already enough haha. I love making my ride look better and better though.
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Wow thanks man you are a real teacher lol. I really appreciate that insight because I never knew any of this stuff. I'm actually still reading up on the links you provided...lol it's quite a lot to grasp but I'm trying.

But first off, where in the hell would I be able to take some wheels and tires that I want to stance on my car? Like, who's going to do this suspension work and checking of the camber and all that good stuff to insure proper suspension on the wheels and tires? I'm sure I can't do it alone lmao.

Anyway, I've been looking at different wheels that I really like and here is a set that I'm really really feeling...in the 17"

https://www.wheelplususa.com/wheels/STR/517/Titanium

What do you guys think of those?


But I am actually into keeping he car as stock as possible, but these cool looking wheels just have me up off my seat in arousal lmao! I really like the stretched tire look but I'm sure as you stated above, there is many things to consider when choosing to uptake these mods. And my car is one that has always had to go over speed bumps...that's a big "Uh oh"...

But I agree with you, this is something I need to continue to find out exactly what I really want and the look I really want to go for. As well as what will be fit my lifestyle right now.

How does ppl even go over speed bumps with cars so low and wheels stanced so intensely lol? Even without stanced wheels, cars with big lips can get hella low to the ground and it seems as if it's impossible not to scrape something trying to go over a speed bump and even pulling in and out of some driveways.
Pleased to be able to help.

At it's lowest my lude was probably 2-2.5" lower than stock, it was just starting to tuck tire on 215/45R17's and 17x7 +40's. The fronts sat really nicely (almost flush) but the rears were sunk by a good 15-20mm. The sunk rear has always bothered me but I don't want to add spacers since the rear wheels are so visible from the back of the car, so I'd rather have thrown on wider wheels, but being FWD there is no point in really wide rear wheels so I just left it. Since I've pulled a tonne of weight out it's now sitting like 1-1.5" higher front and rear so I need to drop it back down again, but that's beside the point. I used to DD it at it's lowest and it wasn't too much of a problem. Sure I'd have to avoid speedbumps (I nearly got beached in a supermarket carpark over a particularly large one, my poor chassis rails), I completely wore through the plastic sump guard in a few places, I couldn't park perpendicular to kerbs or those wheel chock things without scraping the front bar and my front plastic inner fenders (I took out the rear one because it scraped too much) look like an over-loved hunk of swiss cheese.. but it was totally worth it. I probably wouldn't want to have gone any lower though since it was right on the cusp of being impractical. If I had a lip kit it would have been busted off within a week from my own carelessness. My car would only have been considered low too, not super-low, slammed, dumped or whatever else. My point is, if you run super-low then you will smash up everything near to the ground. Anyone DDing such a low car accepts this fact and just deals with it, you'll end up with holes in your exhaust, busted lips, rusty fenders from wearing through the paint and shredded tires but hey, at least you'll look cool doing it.

Any tire fitting shop or even a decent mechanic should have a wheel alignment machine. Finding someone to actually install coilovers (if that's what you go for) could be a problem depending on where you live, technically they are not legal for street use, but again just ask around.

Those wheels are a BBS replica but the look is not a bad one for our cars if that's what you're into. It looks like (from that site) that they're only available in 17x9 +18 or 15x8 +25 (or +0). In either case you're going to struggle to fit them on a 4th gen without a combination of stretch, rolling and pulling. I personally prefer legit wheels but many would argue they're not worth the extra money. The problem with BBS, Work/Volk, SSR, Enkei etc. etc. is that their choices are very limited in 4-stud and generally don't offer extreme offsets, but at least they're engineered and (probably) won't explode on you. But hey, I've seen just as many Enkei's explode on the track as I have seen Rota's (a common fake-as-hell wheel in these parts).
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At it's lowest my lude was probably 2-2.5" lower than stock, it was just starting to tuck tire on 215/45R17's and 17x7 +40's. The fronts sat really nicely (almost flush) but the rears were sunk by a good 15-20mm. The sunk rear has always bothered me but I don't want to add spacers since the rear wheels are so visible from the back of the car, so I'd rather have thrown on wider wheels, but being FWD there is no point in really wide rear wheels so I just left it. Since I've pulled a tonne of weight out it's now sitting like 1-1.5" higher front and rear so I need to drop it back down again, but that's beside the point. I used to DD it at it's lowest and it wasn't too much of a problem. Sure I'd have to avoid speedbumps (I nearly got beached in a supermarket carpark over a particularly large one, my poor chassis rails), I completely wore through the plastic sump guard in a few places, I couldn't park perpendicular to kerbs or those wheel chock things without scraping the front bar and my front plastic inner fenders (I took out the rear one because it scraped too much) look like an over-loved hunk of swiss cheese.. but it was totally worth it. I probably wouldn't want to have gone any lower though since it was right on the cusp of being impractical. If I had a lip kit it would have been busted off within a week from my own carelessness. My car would only have been considered low too, not super-low, slammed, dumped or whatever else. My point is, if you run super-low then you will smash up everything near to the ground. Anyone DDing such a low car accepts this fact and just deals with it, you'll end up with holes in your exhaust, busted lips, rusty fenders from wearing through the paint and shredded tires but hey, at least you'll look cool doing it.

Any tire fitting shop or even a decent mechanic should have a wheel alignment machine. Finding someone to actually install coilovers (if that's what you go for) could be a problem depending on where you live, technically they are not legal for street use, but again just ask around.

Those wheels are a BBS replica but the look is not a bad one for our cars if that's what you're into. It looks like (from that site) that they're only available in 17x9 +18 or 15x8 +25 (or +0). In either case you're going to struggle to fit them on a 4th gen without a combination of stretch, rolling and pulling. I personally prefer legit wheels but many would argue they're not worth the extra money. The problem with BBS, Work/Volk, SSR, Enkei etc. etc. is that their choices are very limited in 4-stud and generally don't offer extreme offsets, but at least they're engineered and (probably) won't explode on you. But hey, I've seen just as many Enkei's explode on the track as I have seen Rota's (a common fake-as-hell wheel in these parts).

Help me out here...I'm lost on a couple of things lmao. what did you mean when you said you "Almost
got beached in a sulermarket, and about the chassis rails"? Also what are the sump guards you referred to? And what is the front bar and front plastic inner fender that you mentioned? And you said you'll end up with "rusty fenders from wearing through the paint, and shredded tires", how does this happen?

I'm trying to understand what I'm going to get myself into being that I really really want to drop my car even on the stock wheels until I get a set of aftermarket ones I really like. I just wanna make sure I don't tear up a brand new exhaust that will be on my car, or tear anything else up like my lips and other stuff under the car.


And as far as those wheels go, I would rather get something BBS but do they even have wheels in 4x114.3? If so please let me know where to look for some! Lol I love the BBS's. Just to imagine the consequences of riding low, and havi to roll, and pull fenders just scares me a little lol. I might be considering some wheels that won't require so much modification to just get them to fit. As this is a DD car.
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Help me out here...I'm lost on a couple of things lmao. what did you mean when you said you "Almost
got beached in a sulermarket, and about the chassis rails"? Also what are the sump guards you referred to? And what is the front bar and front plastic inner fender that you mentioned? And you said you'll end up with "rusty fenders from wearing through the paint, and shredded tires", how does this happen?

I'm trying to understand what I'm going to get myself into being that I really really want to drop my car even on the stock wheels until I get a set of aftermarket ones I really like. I just wanna make sure I don't tear up a brand new exhaust that will be on my car, or tear anything else up like my lips and other stuff under the car.


And as far as those wheels go, I would rather get something BBS but do they even have wheels in 4x114.3? If so please let me know where to look for some! Lol I love the BBS's. Just to imagine the consequences of riding low, and havi to roll, and pull fenders just scares me a little lol. I might be considering some wheels that won't require so much modification to just get them to fit. As this is a DD car.

There's 3 constants in life;
-Gravity
-Sun rising and setting everyday
-The lower you go, the more stuff you'll destroy and hafta replace ESPECIALLY DD'ing the car! It's inevitable. You gotta pay to play, son.

The lower you are, the closer you are to all hazards in the roadway AND parking lots (i.e. speed-bumps, parking curbs ), meaning everything underneath your car is more susceptible to getting damaged; Front lips, bumpers, fog lights, splash shields, exhausts, oil pans, etc...

Case in point, the first couple months I was lowered on Neuspeed Races (2-2.25"), DD'ing the car, was on a ridiculously congested highway with nowhere to swerve/brake, hit something in the road, punctured my gas tank.
EPA had to come out to clean up, was all sorts of fun.

Not to mention the countless front lips and exhausts I've been thru, cracked fog housings, etc

Those are only the potential dangers of simply being LOW. Which are easily remedied by driving slow, driving at angles, etc...



Now on top of that you wanna do super low offset wheels (the wheels sit much farther out in the wheel wells) meaning the tires are much closer to the fenders. Once they're too close (i.e. the first car you posted) the tires will literally hit the fenders when you hit a bump. The fender will shred the tires, and the tires will rub away the paint on the fenders. Unless you go to a skinnier tire, add more negative camber, roll/pull the fenders some more, yadda yadda yadda....
If you think the car you posted is DD'ed, you're about to be in for a VERY rude awakening.



If you don't wanna deal with ANY of these problems, there's one ridiculously easy thing you can do- Keep it stock. If you absolutely love the look, you're gonna hafta deal with the repercussions
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Re: Where are all the good looking 4 lug wheels?

Dare to be different.
Put 55's on stock wheels and lower the car 1/2 to 1". The larger tires will look like stuffed fenders and the height will end up being close to stock.
And as an added bonus you'll suffer nowhere near the basketball ride when traveling to and from your daily destinations.

My son went from 50 to 55's and when traveling with him on bumpy highways my head hardly ever hits the ceiling anymore. Used to be "damn son, you need to issue your passengers a crash helmet". But other than the 'stuffed fender' look it's hardly noticable...
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There's 3 constants in life;
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-Sun rising and setting everyday
-The lower you go, the more stuff you'll destroy and hafta replace ESPECIALLY DD'ing the car! It's inevitable. You gotta pay to play, son.

The lower you are, the closer you are to all hazards in the roadway AND parking lots (i.e. speed-bumps, parking curbs ), meaning everything underneath your car is more susceptible to getting damaged; Front lips, bumpers, fog lights, splash shields, exhausts, oil pans, etc...

Case in point, the first couple months I was lowered on Neuspeed Races (2-2.25"), DD'ing the car, was on a ridiculously congested highway with nowhere to swerve/brake, hit something in the road, punctured my gas tank.
EPA had to come out to clean up, was all sorts of fun.

Not to mention the countless front lips and exhausts I've been thru, cracked fog housings, etc

Those are only the potential dangers of simply being LOW. Which are easily remedied by driving slow, driving at angles, etc...



Now on top of that you wanna do super low offset wheels (the wheels sit much farther out in the wheel wells) meaning the tires are much closer to the fenders. Once they're too close (i.e. the first car you posted) the tires will literally hit the fenders when you hit a bump. The fender will shred the tires, and the tires will rub away the paint on the fenders. Unless you go to a skinnier tire, add more negative camber, roll/pull the fenders some more, yadda yadda yadda....
If you think the car you posted is DD'ed, you're about to be in for a VERY rude awakening.



If you don't wanna deal with ANY of these problems, there's one ridiculously easy thing you can do- Keep it stock. If you absolutely love the look, you're gonna hafta deal with the repercussions

Your absolutely right. I'm really considering a lot of things being that this is a daily driven car. I really want nice things on it, but I also want it to be things that won't get bashed up and end up having my money go down the drain. So stock would be he best way.
So when you say "Unless you go to a skinnier tire, add more negative camber, roll/pull the fenders some more, yadda yadda yadda...." do you mean that if I do all this my fenders and tires won't get as messed up oorrr?

Just wondering because I actually want to ask you or anybody else who knows, what do yall think about adding low profiles on the stock saw blades ? It seems like it'll look cool and still be kind of stock. The tires would only be against stock specs , and if I drop it to a good height to make it look cool that would make me very satisfied as well. Maybe one day when I get another car, I could actually invest in some dope BBS and have the offset lifestyle going.
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Your absolutely right. I'm really considering a lot of things being that this is a daily driven car. I really want nice things on it, but I also want it to be things that won't get bashed up and end up having my money go down the drain. So stock would be he best way.
So when you say "Unless you go to a skinnier tire, add more negative camber, roll/pull the fenders some more, yadda yadda yadda...." do you mean that if I do all this my fenders and tires won't get as messed up oorrr?

Just wondering because I actually want to ask you or anybody else who knows, what do yall think about adding low profiles on the stock saw blades ? It seems like it'll look cool and still be kind of stock. The tires would only be against stock specs , and if I drop it to a good height to make it look cool that would make me very satisfied as well. Maybe one day when I get another car, I could actually invest in some dope BBS and have the offset lifestyle going.
By the way I really appreciate all of you guys's help on my noob life lol. It means a lot. My fellow luders


You're going to sacrifice something with almost ANYTHING you do.
Lower profile tires = harsher ride.
Skinnier tires = less grip.
Too much negative camber = horrible handling/chewing up tires.
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Dare to be different.
Put 55's on stock wheels and lower the car 1/2 to 1". The larger tires will look like stuffed fenders and the height will end up being close to stock.
And as an added bonus you'll suffer nowhere near the basketball ride when traveling to and from your daily destinations.

My son went from 50 to 55's and when traveling with him on bumpy highways my head hardly ever hits the ceiling anymore. Used to be "damn son, you need to issue your passengers a crash helmet". But other than the 'stuffed fender' look it's hardly noticable...

Are the 55's gonna be a higher profile or lower? Sound like a good idea. But what's exactly is the "basketball ride"? When the car bounces from a hump? I would think that when its lowered it wouldn't bounce at all with such stiff suspension lol. I really like the idea of having low profile tires on the stock wheels though, it really sounds like it would look cool. But maybe it's impossible to do since I haven't seen any lude ever with low profiles on the saw blades.

By the way, while its on my mind...For cars that are stanced, and cars with bigger wheels on the back than the front...how are balancing and rotations done with the tires? Or is it something you don't do anymore? Or even when all the wheels are the same size, and the car is stanced on them...is a tire rotation and balancing done/required? I've always been curious of this.
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You're going to sacrifice something with almost ANYTHING you do.
Lower profile tires = harsher ride.
Skinnier tires = less grip.
Too much negative camber = horrible handling/chewing up tires.

Very true...so does the suspension bounce that much for it to bash up even low profiles? I thought when lowered, you stiffen the suspension so that bouncing doesn't happen? I understand that even with low profiles, if it's lowered TOO MUCH it will still get shredded. I guess what's to figure out when I get coilovers, is how low is TOO LOW, and how low is the LOWEST I can go WITHOUT shredding tires.
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