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Old 06-13-2013, 11:11 AM
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Idle Annoyance; NOT Problem

So how many idle threads are there again?

Well, I don't know how to use the search function, so I really don't know.

So.

Bought all gaskets, seals, o-rings, etc, etc for the idle-related parts I worked on.

Bare in mind that I'm not a mechanic and I just do things cause it looks pretty in the picture.

Took the EGR out.



It wasn't too dirty, but I got most of the blank gunk out and the litte pin still holds tension, so it looks fine to me. The gasket was nonexistent, it had melted or something, but there was a little bit on the EGR flange and I used a file to even it out before putting the new one.

Out comes to IAC!


Cleaned all the black gunk from it as well, and since I had a new filter, I pop that one out. Now here's where I get kinda ghetto. I had to hammer the filter into the little socket cause it wouldn't fit and I kinda plastically deformed the metal some of both the mesh and the part (on the parts where the rubber o-ring go). Anyway, replaced the double o-ring. THAT 3-point screw behid the part!! Whaddupwitdat!? I couldn't open it! Who would have that tool..?? sigh..

Why couldn't they stop using an FITV in '94? :P


I didn't really like taking this part off cause it's under the TB and you're kinda wrenching blind a little. So. This thing gets cleaned too. The cap with the 2 screws holding it, I take off, I screw that plastic yellow thing, take out the spring, etc, clean everything, put it all back together.

AND! I don't think anything's changed, lmao

Oh, rightttt! The symptoms!!
NO CEL. Cold start up, VRAM! 2500.
I sit there neutraled.

Few minutes.. slowwwwly, 2.4, 2.3... when finally 2k, I start moving like a granny.
Keep driving, then sometimes settles at 1700-1600 and sits there on the street (fully warmed, or at least that's what the two GIANT gradients on the spaceship cluster display)..

Then, give it 5, maybe 10, then own to 1000-1050, like HMMMMM

Sometimes if on the cold start, it goes vremmm, up to 1.8-1.9k, settles down beautifully at 800.

Hmm.. what else. I have a small exhaust leak (doubt it's the prob) cause of a bit of rust on the flex pipe.. I just did a full brake fluid flush yesterday and had the timing belt, water pump, vc gasket set, tensioners (pulleyss), gaskets, like 4 months ago.

Bear in mind the problem was just a cold start high idle, but then progressed to like the normal temp 1600.

MY hypothesis is that the IAC is a POS and I need to take it to some cliff, borrow my friend's .22 and disintegrate that siht, cause it's got it coming.

I saw a brand new one (off-brand obviosly) on eBay for like $80. It's like $280 OEM so I dunno if I'm going name brand on this one.

Oh, and I degreased the engine a little, still pretty dirty though..



Wat cha'll thank?

Thanks.
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Re: Idle Annoyance; NOT Problem

This.....

the FINAL idle problem thread!!!!!

and to make sure you put you fotv back together correctly...
*** How-To*** Clean Your FITV aka Fast Idle Thermo Valve - Honda-Tech
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Re: Idle Annoyance; NOT Problem

I know Miz, I know..
I've checked both. If I didn't put the FITV back in properly, uh.. I've got no idea how to tell lol

But yeah... I got no choice but to go tackle the TB now.. EVEN THOUGH!! I haven't gotten the high idling as much anymore.. maybe because of the gunk clearing out.

Thanks for the links though, I'll go re-read them for the bazillionth time.

When I did the AIC valve and started the car, I felt minor fluctuations and just a minor different feel to the lude, SO!

I am thinking I'm just gonna buy this IAC valve I found used for like $50!!
92 96 Honda Prelude Iacv Idle Air Control Valve IAC Eacv 138200 0261 | eBay

But I also found a brand new one for $80!
New Idle Air Control Valve 90 91 92 93 Honda Accord 92 96 Prelude | eBay

OEM is like $280 and Autozone part is like $230 brand new.

What do you guys think? Get the no-name shie or OEM it up?
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Re: Idle Annoyance; NOT Problem

Well if your idle is to high you didn't screw in the FITV in far enough. To adjust your idle unplug the idle air control valve, screw in the idle screw ( with the car started ), turn off the car, unplug the clock radio fuse ( its in the underhood fuse box ) let it sit for ten mins at the least ( to clear the codes ), then plug it back in and start it.
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Well if your idle is to high you didn't screw in the FITV in far enough. To adjust your idle unplug the idle air control valve, screw in the idle screw ( with the car started ), turn off the car, unplug the clock radio fuse ( its in the underhood fuse box ) let it sit for ten mins at the least ( to clear the codes ), then plug it back in and start it.
Wouldn't "artificially" fixing/lowering the idle just hide the underlying issue, rather than solve it? Sure, it will look as if the issue was "fixed," but in the depths of your heart, you know you're just numbin' her up so she won't feel the pain..

Oh, and yes, I screwed the yello plastic piece in the FITV pretty tightly. No difference, really.
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