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Tire Talk.

Hey guys new on here just bought a 1996 Prelude VTEC (Black) with a AEM CAI that I installed this past weekend along with some new alpine speakers and a infinity center channel for a stock radio with a USA-SPEC IPOD interface connected to the CD player port. Did the front brakes and cleaned/serviced rears - replaced oil pressure switch and did a royal purple with mobil one oil filter change. - Everything works in the car - inc. heated seats and AC but now onto rubber.


My question for you pros:

I am looking at Yokohama S.Drive tires as one option 205/55/15 (since I got a pair of Yoko ICE Guards to go with it fro winter) but on the stock rims there is currently Bfgoodrich Traction T/A tires.

I would really like to go with the Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec (Extreme Performance Summer) tire but the last size that comes in 15 inches is 195/55/15

Being that stock is 205/15/15 - what would I sacrifice/gain by going with this size of tire 195/55/15?

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Re: Tire Talk.

Update*** Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec $825 installed 195/55/15
Or the Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 205/50/15 $1228 - Out of Cali 2 weeks wait
Then the Yokohama S.Drive 205/55/15 $667 with a $70 rebate mail in

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Re: Tire Talk.

With the 205 going down to 195 means the tire will be a bit narrower, sacrificing a bit of traction during hard cornering. On the other hand, the tire may be a little bit lighter helping performance in another way.

But nothing is that clear-cut. For example, I hear with S2000's they do extremely well with 195 series tires in either auto cross or time attack, can't remember which.

I'm running 195/55/15 and going to see how that goes.

I'd say go with the S-Drives if you want to stay stock and feel safer choice-wise that way. It also appears considerably cheaper than RE-11's if you're on a budget. If you have the $ and want great tires the RE-11's are ballin'.
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Re: Tire Talk.

S-drives are soft. I had a pair on the rear of my car with worn out dunlops on the front.
Replaced with eagles throughout.

I liked the s-drives just fine. Got eagles because I like eagles better. If you don't mind soft tires (think less miles before rotations etc) s-drives are dandy tires. Money well spent but figure 20-25k before they wear out.

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S-drives are awesome for the money. Dunlops are good but in my opinion not worth the money. Really depends what u want out of the tires.
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Re: Tire Talk.

You lose 10mm in tire width, and 5mm in height. You would be better off getting all season performance, v-rating. Toyo Proxes t1-s /t1-r give you the grip in a lot of situations.

Also summer tires are specifically for high heat endurance. One good summer sun shower, and you lose all your grip. Very bad if you take a turn under the pretense you have control.
All season extreme have a different compound that lets you do both.
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Re: Tire Talk.

^^hence the eagles sir
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Re: Tire Talk.

I can't suggest tires without experience with them. Conti-pro contact extremes are w-compound, but are like 150/tire.

Screaming eagles! Goodyear had to make a better tire by now, lol
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Re: Tire Talk.

I love my dunlop star specs, once it is hot out they stick to the road so good. If it's not warm out though, absolutely no grip like sideswipe said. Toyo proxy 4s are a good all season performance tire.
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Re: Tire Talk.

I have those same S.Drive tires on my 4th gen. They're very compliant, comfortable, and have great road manners. I have about 25k on mine, and I hate to admit, but I haven't rotated them even once. Due to poor alignment, the insides up front are worn considerably, but they still have maybe 10k on them if I swap the fronts and rears around and get my toe back in spec (never got an alignment after changing tie rods).
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With the 205 going down to 195 means the tire will be a bit narrower, sacrificing a bit of traction during hard cornering. On the other hand, the tire may be a little bit lighter helping performance in another way.

But nothing is that clear-cut. For example, I hear with S2000's they do extremely well with 195 series tires in either auto cross or time attack, can't remember which.

I'm running 195/55/15 and going to see how that goes.

I'd say go with the S-Drives if you want to stay stock and feel safer choice-wise that way. It also appears considerably cheaper than RE-11's if you're on a budget. If you have the $ and want great tires the RE-11's are ballin'.
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The AP1 S2000 came stock with 205/55-16s up front and 225/50-16s in the rear. They perform better with the 225s up front and 245/45-16s in the back.
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Re: Tire Talk.

imo 15s are too small for 4th gen
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imo 15s are too small for 4th gen
i have to agree with you 4th gen prelude on 15`s are kinda small IMO 16`s are the right size for 4th gen but i really do want some 15x8 or 15x8.25 wheels on my car soon. I do have 17 inch enkei evo5 right now but i really dont like the low profile tires i have right now. 195/55 is good but its up to you.
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Re: Tire Talk.

I think generally, they're too small. I think it takes the right design to make a 15 look right on a Prelude. I love my 15s.
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Re: Tire Talk.

Wow thanks guys for all the great responses. I will definitely go with the S.Drives - but really agree with the 15" being to small. I suppose one day I will get a nice set of rims to go with a really great car but this spring especially money is tight. 25K is fine out of a set of tires - the eagles I was also looking at but I did not see a tire available for 205/55/15 - at least though, the yoko's do come in this size and for a good price for a spring sale so I will get the right specs from the tire.
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Re: Tire Talk.

There is nothing wrong with 15's. classic cars always looks cleaner when it has the wheels that came from the factory. Also. If the offset is right and the rim has a lip, it looks sexy. I don't justify getting bigger rims unless:

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4.somehow the new rim increases my car's cargo capacity

Smaller rims are usually easier to change in tire shops and doesn't mar the rim. Also the tires usually isn't local, the more exotic the tire is. Just sayin. Good luck with your tires.
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1) i like it when you do numbered responses.
2) i agree the factory look is sexy in classic cars
3) your tire thread taught what a stipe is
4) posting with an android phone doesn't suck. But my fingers miss the key a lot.
5) i think op will like those s-drives just fine unless he runs the track in the rain.
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You know, I really haven't had anything bad to say about wet grip on mine.
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Unless you Autocross/Track the car you do not need anything more than the S Drives.
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I would imagine you'd only get a few laps out of the S.Drives anyway. LOL.
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Hot lapping street tires = no bueno

Falken azenis DOT COMP tires are perfect for auto-x, just don't dd the poor things, lol
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