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"My Story and My Build." by: The Dream

So, first of all, i wanna say thank you to everyone that has helped me so far in giving me advice and has taken time in the past to tell me how to do certain thing in my car, sorry i haven't been very active in the forum lately but i have bee awful busy with working graveyard shift at my job and trying to juggle my girlfriend and fixing/building my car, but without any more blah blah blah, here's the beginning of the story for my build.

Ok, so my story began a couple of months ago when my prelude (í92 2.3 4ws) was vandalized by some @$$hole when it was left at my girlfriendís house, the insurance company was being a total pain and the cops wouldnít do anything because I didnít have any ďactual substantialĒ evidence. So I was on my own and since fixing the car was going to cost me almost as much as buying a new prelude, I decided that instead of fixing my old prelude I would just buy another one, and since my old prelude had a couple of problems anyways, I figured getting a prelude that didnít have as many issues would be a win-win for me.

So I started the Journey in looking around for something I could buy, it took me some time but I finally found a car that looked decent enough for me to make an investment on, so I went ahead and asked for the guys in this forum to get opinions on whether a car like this would be worth buying or not in HERE , it was also a 92 fws 2.3, just like my old car, it just looked a lot more nice than mine, since again, mine was vandalized.

After getting some opinions, I finally got the courage to go and look at it, I liked the car, specially since it looked so clean and it also ran smoothly, I noticed it had the el cluster conversion and there were some stuff about the car that I liked so I decided to go ahead and buy it that same day, since the guy he already had other offers from people that wanted it, and since I live far from him, I got stupid and without having a mechanic check it, I bought the car.

But then guess what happened, I GOT SCAMMED turns out that car had more that 200k on the motor (even though the cluster read a lot less miles on it ) and it had a small oil leak, I was disappointed, frustrated, and irritated. I mean, there were a lot of parts that had been changed to new parts, like started, and the tranny was fairly new, also it was a new thermostat, new radiator, etcÖ but the motor was old.


I was out a lot of money, I mean, all my savings and I was hoping I could do something about it with a cop or something, since I could use the fact that the cluster was rolled back, but no such luck. Apparently, after a car is older than ten years, the mileage is absent on the title, what that means is that the mileage can be rolled back and then the car can be sold and you canít get in trouble because the law says the mileage on a car after 10 years does not matter, at least in Florida.

I thought all hope was lost and I was about to ready to just give up and try to sale both cars and try to recuperate as much of my money as possible and just give up on preludes all together since apparently I have never had any good luck with them and just settle for a civic or something. But then some of the best things in my life happened that turned my luck around. ;-)

I was at work looking all sad and angry (I work the graveyard shift at a gas station) and this customer that would always come in saw me, I acted a bit nasty with him and thatís when he asked me what was wrong, so I told him everything that happened and thatís when he told me something amazing. Turns out, his a mechanic and he felt so bad for me that he said he would help me fix my car on his free time for only a fraction of the price he would regularly charge his customers, as long as I promised to help him with doing all the work, all I had to do was buy the parts myself.

He came to my house and checked my two ludes, the new one and my old, vandalized one and he told me that it was better to fix my old one since not only I had more love towards that one and my motor was better than the one in the other lude, besides, it was cheaper and easier to just changed some of the parts from the new car and put them in the old one, rather than switching out the motors.

So I started my Journey, and started visiting junkyards to find a prelude for the parts I needed for my lude, I needed fenders, a windshield, an antenna, a rear left window, and a couple more things to fix the outside, before we started working in the inside. I was having no luck and I was running out of patiente, until, I found a junkyard with three preludes, and thatís when my build began.

I think I have written enough for today, I will continue tomorrow and throw in a couple of pictures of the progress I have made so far. I will also cut a lot more of the blah blah blah and just focus more on the actual ďbuild and partsĒ of my build, I just wanted to share with you guys my story before I described my build aswell. I will see you guys tomorrow, and for those who read this, thank you ;-)
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Re: "My Story and My Build." by: The Dream

Glad everything worked out for you. and post pics, bud!
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Re: "My Story and My Build." by: The Dream

Looking forward to the pictures!
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Re: "My Story and My Build." by: The Dream

Well, this story has caught my eye. Oh the suspense
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Re: "My Story and My Build." by: The Dream

Welcome back, I remember the advice I gave you, sorry it didn't count man. But you have an entire parts car, a guru and most of all, your happiness. If you can swap a piece, sell it, fix your prelude! You also learned your lesson about buying cars I hope and after you're done with your "keeper", you can show us a thing or two, LOL!

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This thread is nothing without pictures! j/k
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Re: "My Story and My Build." by: The Dream

Man there should be a word limit! Just kidding. I'm glad it's working out for you. Sucks that you got scammed. Hurry and post pics!
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Re: "My Story and My Build." by: The Dream

I'd find out who that kid that fu*ked up the lude and kick the sh*t outta him. Good luck with the rebuild bro. You know we are all here to help.
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Re: "My Story and My Build." by: The Dream

Ok. So, Iím really sorry for the couple of months that I have been distant, Iíve just had a bunch of stuff on my plate and time was very stretched out on the things I could do regarding my car while still keeping up with my own personal things. But lately I ran into some free time so I figured Iíd use that time to put you guys up to date on all the stuff Iíve done so far regarding my build.

I havenít really put any performance or other aftermarket parts on it yet since there were so many things wrong with my car to begin with. So I decided to first fix and restore it to as close to ďfactoryĒ condition as I could and then start building from there. I didnít want to have a problem come back to bite me in the arse later as an even bigger complication because I didnít first covered my basics. I figured you can never be too careful. Besides, if youíre going to do something Might as well do it right, right?

Anyhow, hereís an over-all list of all the things that I have done in the car so far.


1. Re-soldered and elongated the stereo cables to a factory connector.
2. Re-soldered the 12v ignition cable (Yellow/Red ) that gives power supply to radio and cigarette lighter.
3. New speakers just the rear ones.
4. Replaced door lock control unit so my locks could work again
5. Switched out the cigarette lighter light/bulb.
6. Replaced the passenger side electrical door lock motor (I was going to do a DIY on this since I couldnít find one when I was doing this. However, I mistakenly, deleted the pictures, however if anyone wants to know how to do this, Iíll be more than happy to try and assist).
7. Got myself an antenna. (it goes up and down now and itís awesome haha)
8. Got the rear left corner window (that was broken) from junk yard.
9. Replaced the entire dashboard (mine was all beat up and scratched) to one on better condition.
10. Took out and Rewired the wire harness of a í92 to fit the el (í94-í96) odometer
11. Placed the rewired wire harness back into the better dashboard along with the el odometer.
12. But the rewired wire harness and the dashboard back into my car.
13. Rewired and soldier the Pink cable (in 4ws í92-93 equipped cars) to relocate the 4ws light to the end of the instrumental cluster. To where the Daytime Lights, ďlightĒ should be (is in Canada) at.
14. replaced the whole center console of the í92 (that huge thing coming form the middle of the back seats to where the e-brake is) for the í94-96 one (the smaller one that doesnít divide the back seat and has a cup holder).
15. Fixed 4ws system computer, it was just some re soldering so the 4 wheels would turn again (Expect a DIY on this one).
16. Got my self a New Battery
17. New power steering pump.
18. Replace the power steering and ac compressor belts.
19. New radiator. (I wanted to do a DIY on this, but I lost these pictures aswell.)
20. Replaced all the old hoses.
21. Replaced left and right fender. (Expect a DIY on this one)
22. replaced the sunroof. (expect a DIY on this one)
23. replaced the door panels for cleaner ones.
24. New break pads
25. New Tires.
26. New headlights, not jdm but they are one piece ant I got them in junk yard for 30 bucks so they should do alright for now. (Btw, Expect a DIY on this one aswell)
27. Made and install a new 4ws light so that I actually have a light that says 1ws instead of that blacked out part (on U.S models) expect a DIY on this one. refer to picture at bottom to see what i mean;-)
28. Replaced the water pump.

Iíll make sure to explain more and include pictures about at least one item per day in the order listed above. In other words, today, Iíll explain #1 on my list and put the pictures I have. Tomorrow, Iíll write about #2, so forth and so on. I promise I wonít disappear this time. However Iíll try to get you guys the DIYís as soon as possible.
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Re: "My Story and My Build." by: The Dream

Hopefully it's all coming together for you man,
Did your replace the pass door lock actuator? Hard to do?
Lucky you have 3 junked preludes..The nearest one to me is 2 hours away and its parted out already.
Glad another 4th gen is coming back to life. :)
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Glad another 4th gen is coming back to life. :)
where's the like button for this? haha

well, actually, it's not as hard as you think, all you have to do is take out the door panel, roll up the window, take off the bar that guides the path of the window, and then unscrew the 3 screws on the edge of the door, then screw the the door the door handle, pull it out, and then replace the it that way. then repeat everything backwards and you're done.

hopefully that helped.
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Re: "My Story and My Build." by: The Dream

Doesn't sound to hard, My passenger side power locks stopped working. I checked the bars and they are fine so I'm guessing it is the actuator. I think eBay had one for 40 bucks.

how hard is it to fix your 4ws? My little cousin just bought a 93 and he said sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.
He took it on the highway and he said he speed wobbled because of it? I told him I would re solder it for him ( just that box in his trunk?)

Oh and since you have 2 ludes might as well build them both up man ;)
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Re: "My Story and My Build." by: The Dream

Oh and ****ty about yours getting vandalized in the first place.
Can't stand that stuff. A couple of my buddies back in the day would go out and egg cars and stuff like that. I could never do that, I love my car so much that I could do that to somebody ( ya I lost a girlfriend over my car, so what ) bunch of punks, they will get what they deserve lol
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Re: "My Story and My Build." by: The Dream

that sucks man, i found the lock actuator (if we're talking about the same thing) for about 14 bucks, if i remember correctly, at the junk yard.

and don't worry man, my car getting vandalized and what happened after sucked, but i take the good with the bad and just call it a learning experience, besides had it not been for that, my knowledge would not have gotten bigger.

and about the 4ws problem, don't worry i'm gonna post a DIY soon, it's something i found online. i just have to find the link.

oh and i don't want to fix both, just my old one, my favorite one. it would cost too much to fix both, besides i don't need them both and also. i'm planning on selling one, which is worse condition than my old one is now, and using that money to paint my old one.

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Re: "My Story and My Build." by: The Dream

As Promised, Iíll start today with #1.

#1. Re-soldered and elongated the stereo cables to a factory connector.

Important: I must give Credit to my Mechanicís friend and Licensed Automotive Electrician who guided me through the Process of Finding and Eliminating all the issues with the wiring in my car and returning it, electronically to factory mode. Also, I have to give him even more Props for teaching me how to solder.

Going on with it.

I found an old Prelude at the Junk Yard, and I saw that it still had the Stock Stereo Connector and knowing how messed up my stereo cables were I grabbed it and cut as far back as I could to make sure I grabbed enough and then I Proceeded to solder my old cables to the new Connector, according to color of course, and then I was done.

Hereís how they looked before.



Hereís how they look now.



All I had to do after, was to buy a Honda radio adapter, I think I bought it at wal-mart, to my new connector.

it looks like this.



Then I just soldered those cables to the ones that came out of my Pioneer radio connector and thatís it.

All resulting on a nice, clean, secure install.

Final Product.



Btw, just to clarify, YES, I recycled some of the pictures Iíve posted in previous posts since I saw no point in re-uploading or taking new ones since the the old ones would do just find.
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Re: "My Story and My Build." by: The Dream

Haha nice DIY
I can't stand when people cut into the factory harness..like the adapter is 7 bucks!
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#2. Re-soldered the 12v ignition cable (Yellow/Red ) that gives power supply to radio and cigarette lighter.

If you want to skip all of the blah, blah, blah just read the last paragraph. The reason Iím writing everything Is because I figured, if I write as much as I can, and someone ever runs across a similar issue by reading what I did, they might get an idea of what to do themselves. Besides, I think I have a slight case of OCD lol

So some time ago I had posted a threat about how I had a problem (along with other electrical issues) with the Yellow cable with a red stripe which gives power to the stereo when turning the key in the ignition, without turning the car on. The cable had no current going through it and every time I would put a new fuse for the stereo, it would blow the fuse.

I had resolved this by running a cable from the fuse box, more specifically, from the power windows fuse, to the stereo where the Yellow/red cable would go.





However, since I want to do some custom lighting inside my car in the future and I didnít want to start splicing cables for power without fixing this issue so I wouldnít have more electrical complications in the future I decided to fix this.

The electrician was going to charge me a good sum of money since he said that he would need to start taking off the dash and start testing the whole length of the cable in all the places it travelled until he found where the problem was. To save myself a couple of hundreds I did something which was extremely hard, extremely long, and extremely uncomfortable. I went to the junk yard again and I decided to take The Entire Wire harness from behind the dash of a í94 prelude, I mean, the whole entire thing from the fuse box in the hood, to the fuse box inside the car on the driverís side.

I figured if I did that I could study the way I could learn where the cables (not just the Yellow/Red one) ran and how they were supposed to look like. Also the cables in my car, from when I looked under my dash board, looked like a complete mess and had a couple of spliced cables on connectors. So I figured the wire harness I could take out from the Junked car would help as a guide to re solder any spliced cables and make sure the connectors were plugged correctly. This is what the entire wire harness looks like.



Anyway, taking the whole harness helped me on learning the process of learning how to take the dash apart, how to take the door panels off, figure out how and where the cables run and which cables are for what. I learned a lot, 4 days of hard work to take it apart really paid up. I learned a ton, including the fact that most of spliced cables and extra connectors I had seen were actually aftermarket, put there by the company who had put an alarm on the car before it was taken off the car to be sold to me.

It wasnít long before I found the problem with the stereo cable. Turns out that I had a short in the system because whoever had the car before me had an amp on it, but when he sold the car to me he took the amp and the stereo out. I donít think he knew what he was doing since when he took the sound system out, instead of doing it clean, he just pulled and cut cables everywhere he saw he needed to. This means that a par from the Yellow/Red wire was spliced and rubbing up against metal in the car, which was causing it to short. The problem was that I couldnít find where exactly it was spliced since everywhere I looked the cables seemed to be good and untouched.

So I called the electrician and I explained him everything I had done, he actually seemed surprised that I would go through all the trouble and be son hands on about my car but he said he respected that. Anyway, he went directly to the fuse box by the driverís side and unscrewed the whole thing, sure enough the cable was spliced there. I asked him how he knew itíd be there and he said that base on the info I gave him he remembered about a similar case he had once and sure enough, the problem was the same. Anyway, he quickly re-soldered the cable, but the whole thing back together and I now had my stereo and cigarette lighter working the way they were supposed to.

I donít have a picture of him soldering this, but there are screws at the very bottom and at the very top, all you have to do is unscrew all of them and the entire fuse box will come out. If you want to see what it looks like, thought I wouldnít suggest it, too mush work just for a bunch of cables and connectors.
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Re: "My Story and My Build." by: The Dream

#3. New speakers just the rear ones.

Now that I had my stereo fixed I wanted to get myself a better sound system. Not looking for something extreme, but I do want to get something better than the stock speakers, besides I only have my two front ones working at the moment.
When I went to the back I found that the cables running to the speakers in the back were completely cut so I had to re-soldered those cables and elongate them to accommodate some new speakers.

I went online and realized that to get the sound system I wanted I had to spend a good couple of hundreds and probably hire someone to install it for me since I wasnít fully convinced Iíd be able to do it myself.

Advised by my girlfriend however, I decided to go the cheaper rout for now and get myself a pair 6Ĺ for the back and some tweeters for the dash. We decided it was the smart thing to do since I was going to still spend more money on the upcoming repairs. It was less than $100 dollars for all speakers and I just installed them (I donít think I need to show how to install speakers, unless someone is really clueless as to how to do this). And there you go. Not the supreme quality I wanted but good enough for now.

Sorry I have no pictures of this but Iím pretty sure you guys get the idea.
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good job man! Looks like you're on your way to becoming an authority!!!

Keep it up!
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Good job on the wiring Dream! Im glad you got it all sorted out lol
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good job man! Looks like you're on your way to becoming an authority!!!

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Thanks, and i'm just getting started
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Good job on the wiring Dream! Im glad you got it all sorted out lol
thanks man, you and me both. YOU have no idea how gratifying it is to be inside your car and have it done exactly what it's supposed to do lol.
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I really don't have any idea. Mines still sitting in the garage. Its getting there though.
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#3. New speakers just the rear ones.

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Sorry I have no pictures of this but Iím pretty sure you guys get the idea.
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#4. Replaced door lock control unit so my locks could work again.

Ok, so like Iíve mentioned before in another post, my locks would be weird, sometimes theyíd work, sometimes they wouldnít it would be really random. I thought it was a short or maybe a spliced cable or loose connector but when my electrician and I took off the door panel he found nothing wrong, all the cables had continuity, however he did find something wrong. Turns out the Door Lock Control Unit had a malfunction. It would overheat from the current going trough it and that would cause the locks to malfunction the way they did.

This is what the Door Lock Control Unit looks like.




And hereís how it looks like in the door.

Btw. it should say "How" instead of "Now" on the picture.


Btw, itís located inside the driverís door.

All I had to is get one from the Junk yard and thatís it. I will inform you guys though, apparently not all models have this unit. The f models í94-í96 I found at the junk yard didnít have it. I was lucky enough to find another í92 SI like mine in another Junk Yard and thatís how I found my replacement one. Thatís also where I found the wire harness I would rewire to fit my EL cluster and my one-piece headlights, but more on those things later.
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Re: "My Story and My Build." by: The Dream

#5. Switched out the cigarette lighter light/bulb.
Before anything I have to thank hotrod
Whose pictures I borrowed from his tutorial here to make
This post. except for the last two, those two pictures were mine.


This was simple, just take off the screws on both sides of the center console.



Remove these other screws on top of the stereo



Put down the leather cover and then unscrew the shifter knob by just twisting counter clockwise.



It should look like this.



Now you should unscrew the 4 screws circled in the next picture. Also, if you look carefully, you should see the cables for the cigarette burner already.



Now take the whole thing out and you it should look like this. And if you look at it careful enough, you should see the whole piece on the lower right hand corner.



I went one step further and remove the whole Cigarette burner harness from the bracket that holds the stereo to show you guys what it looks like without any confusion. But you donít have to this.

All you simply have to do is, twist the place where the tiny bulb goes (gray box next to the bulb circled in red) counter-clockwise if the whole where the cigarette burner goes is facing you, then pull out. Then, grab the bulb and pull it out aswell, then just change for new bulb, I found mine at the junk yard.



I might switch that bulb for an L.E.D later in the future, I still havenít decided yet.
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Re: "My Story and My Build." by: The Dream

I thought maybe my passenger door lock wasn't working because of the Door lock Control Unit, any way to test that theory?
Keep the DIYs coming
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I thought maybe my passenger door lock wasn't working because of the Door lock Control Unit, any way to test that theory?
Keep the DIYs coming
It's your driver's side door lock working?

what model is your car? F, S, SI, Vtec, 4ws?
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Ya my driver side works, and it rolls the window up on the pass side too ;)
just wont unlock / lock it
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Re: "My Story and My Build." by: The Dream

Touching story! And good for you that it sorted out in the end (:

That's just a reminder to all of us to be nice to whoever we meet. You never know if the stranger you're talking to is your future luck, helper, father/mother in law or just someone who will stay important in your life.

Sunshine stories like these doesn't grow on trees. You were lucky man, yet you desirved that luck 101% in my opinion.

Good job! (so far) :D
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