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Old 07-04-2012, 07:26 AM
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removing motor

Gonna start work on removing my motor sometime this week. H23a1
Any tips or cautions before I start? This'll be my first time removing any motor. I have a chiltons manual and alldata online so I wont be completely blind. I'll try to post pics but im kinda sucky at stuff like that so yeah.
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Label everything. Label parts. Label the bags you put parts into. Label items in the pictures you take removing parts. I guarantee what looks obvious as you break it down will be a complete mystery when it's time to put it all back together!

Ditch the Chilton's manual -- put it to something it's useful for, like soaking up an oil spill. Get a copy of the factory (Helm's) manual -- if you can't find it on eBay or online somewhere, go to Service Manuals, Owner Manuals, Wiring Diagrams, Service Bulletins - Helm Incorporated and cough up the small amount of cash to buy a copy. Best reference you can have for your car. I'm only familiar with Alldata's TSB and recall data. If they have an online manual as good as those, you're probably in good shape...but I'd get a Helm's just as insurance.
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KEEP YOUR BOLTS SEPERATED AND LABELED! I like to use pieces of cardboard boxes. Cut em into pieces. And just write on the cardboard. Really easy to label, or lay out the pattern of what goes where. I prefer pieces about the size of a piece of paper (8x11-ish).

Definately label you connectors if theres a couple in 1 area.
Make sure you have the correct socket, and a method to remove the axle nuts.

Double and triple check you wiring before yanking the motor. There's a couple little brackets bolted down that hold the wiring. Having a friend or 2 to help you when removing/installing the engine will be extremely helpful.
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take as many pictures as you can, than when you think you took enough, take more. believe me pictures speak 1000 words.
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KEEP YOUR BOLTS SEPERATED AND LABELED! I like to use pieces of cardboard boxes. Cut em into pieces. And just write on the cardboard. Really easy to label, or lay out the pattern of what goes where. I prefer pieces about the size of a piece of paper (8x11-ish).

Definately label you connectors if theres a couple in 1 area.
Make sure you have the correct socket, and a method to remove the axle nuts.

Double and triple check you wiring before yanking the motor. There's a couple little brackets bolted down that hold the wiring. Having a friend or 2 to help you when removing/installing the engine will be extremely helpful.
What he said. You have no idea how much trouble you can get yourself into when putting everything back together if you have the wrong grade bolts on the wrong parts. Even if they look the same size wise, keep them labeled and separated.
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Re: removing motor

Actually regarding the connectors, Honda was very smart and designed each connector to ONLY connect to its correct corresponding connector. The only 2 connectors that I've found that are the same are the TPS and MAP sensors. Other than those 2, each connector can only plug into its correct mate.
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Thanks for this.
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Re: removing motor

Good luck, I'm still in the process of building/reinstalling my motor.
I made it a little harder on myself by not labeling EVERYTHING. Then again the A**hole who sold me the car gave me a spliced and chewed up harness so that thing is a no go anyway.

Sorry about the rant, but god luck, again!
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Re: removing motor

Well as far as electrical connectors go, most of them are only able to reach their proper mate. And like twok said, it won't connect to anything but its mate. The prongs are all different. So as long as you have the right plugs you be good. May be just have to shorten or extend some if its as chopped as you say

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It is a little easier to keep everything wired up and just unplug the wiring harness if you plan on swapping to a different engine...
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Re: removing motor

anyone got any suggestions on how to remove the axle shafts? dont have any kind of impact wrench. could i just clamp a vice grip on them and brace it against something?
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anyone got any suggestions on how to remove the axle shafts? dont have any kind of impact wrench. could i just clamp a vice grip on them and brace it against something?

I've done many of engine pulls, trust me just remove the axles entirely. Axle nut socket (36mm I believe) + a bigass pipe. Take off lower BJ's and pull the entire axle out.
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Actually regarding the connectors, Honda was very smart and designed each connector to ONLY connect to its correct corresponding connector. The only 2 connectors that I've found that are the same are the TPS and MAP sensors. Other than those 2, each connector can only plug into its correct mate.
and even so those 2 have color matching connections if I remember correctly....
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I've done many of engine pulls, trust me just remove the axles entirely. Axle nut socket (36mm I believe) + a bigass pipe. Take off lower BJ's and pull the entire axle out.

Actually what I meant by vice gripping it was how do I hold the axle from turning while I loosen the nut. Sorry I didn't really make that clear.
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Actually what I meant by vice gripping it was how do I hold the axle from turning while I loosen the nut. Sorry I didn't really make that clear.

Ahh. Take the center cap off the rim, put rim back on car, car on ground w/ e-brake up and in gear, than loosen the nut (you can fit the axle nut socket in the center of the rim where the center cap goes). Your gonna need the entire weight of the car + resistance of the engine to prevent the axle from turning to loosen the nut, and sometimes you need more than that (i.e. someone else IN the car pressing on the brakes to prevent the car from moving forward/backward)

Personally I wouldn't vice grip the axle cuz I KNOW the vice grip will slip and chew up that portion of the axle.
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Re: removing motor

You guys are over complicating this.

Chain the engine to a large tree from the hook on the top that professionals use to hoist the engine. Start it up, select reverse and floor it. The engine will come out complete with gearbox and most likely the axles will be removed in that process.

Doesn't that sound simpler?
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You guys are over complicating this.

Chain the engine to a large tree from the hook on the top that professionals use to hoist the engine. Start it up, select reverse and floor it. The engine will come out complete with gearbox and most likely the axles will be removed in that process.

Doesn't that sound simpler?
Ehhh I believe this isone of those ''thanks, but no thanks'' moments lol.
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You guys are over complicating this.

Chain the engine to a large tree from the hook on the top that professionals use to hoist the engine. Start it up, select reverse and floor it. The engine will come out complete with gearbox and most likely the axles will be removed in that process.

Doesn't that sound simpler?
Can you please test this theory for us and post pictures?
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Hahaha I think we'll leave that to the boys at BBC Top Gear
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Hahaha I think we'll leave that to the boys at BBC Top Gear

i'm actually very surprised they haven't done that yet
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decided that im going to rebuild the motor. at least most of it. so gonna start an official rebuild thread
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