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Old 01-22-2012, 02:45 AM
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Hey guys. I've got alot of questions but I'm gonna start by saying I'm completely new to these cars. I've owned an 86 civic si and a 94 accord ex coupe, both manuals. However I never really worked on these cars or did any modifications. I've been looking for a new DD so I can just use my miata as a weekend/track car. There's a guy in town with a 92 si 4ws that has a blown f22b in it. I'm looking at buying this but to be honest have no idea about these engines. Are the F22b dohc non vtec and the H23 non vtec completely interchangeable? Pretty much I want to know if the wiring is gonna be a pita. Mechanical work I can deal with but I'm pretty much ****e at wiring. I can switch over a fuel rail and change sensors so everything works if it's possible just wanted to know if the wiring is still from the H23 in there if it just hooks up or if I find one with a blown h23 can I just buy a F22b and plug it in. Also are the gear ratios with the F22 trans different than that of the H23 trans and would this throw off the speedo? Sorry for all the questions but this is new territory for me. I've been searching the internet for days but all I seem to find is threads that say swap in a H22. I'm not looking for the extra power, just simplicity in the swap, reliability and a quick great looking car. I've worked on my old MR2 turbo and my Miata but haven't really gotten into fwd's before. Thanks for all your help and can't wait to get to work.
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Re: New to the Honda scene

It depends on what you mean by interchangeable. The F and H series motors have the same mounts. Its going to be easier just to buy a new wiring harness I believe.
Yes, the gear ratios are different, but some people prefer the longer gears of the F22 trans. I dont think that the gear ratios would throw off the speedo tho.
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Welcome man, just search im sure its here somewhere
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Re: New to the Honda scene

I've been searching but can't seem to find anything on a H23 to f22b swap. All I seem to get is the H22 swap and the F22 vtec swap which isn't what I'm looking for. Thanks for the info foundnessie. I was worried that the gear ratios would be shorter and I'd be running 4k at 70mph my miata does that and it really drones on long trips. Looking for something a bit more relaxed.
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Re: New to the Honda scene

H23 an f22b are almost identical motors

Yes h23 harness will work f22b or h23 tranny will work as well.
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Re: New to the Honda scene

I sit at around 3500 with my f22b Dohc going at 70 and around 3200 at 65. and no it doesn't mess with the speedometer. And as stated before yes the wiring is the same except that the h23 has a knock sensor which the f22b doesn't. just ziptie the knock sensor to the firewall to keep it out of the way or drill a hole into the block (which i didn't feel comfortable doing lol) to plug in the knock sensor. With either option, if you're using the h23 ECU (P14) and the h23 harness it shouldn't throw a CEL.

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Thanks so much for the information guys. I just bought the car tonight and I'm going to pick it and all the parts that come with it up saturday. The paint is in terrible shape, one side has bondo on it where there was a minor dent (from looking in the trunk) and they repaired it, and the interior and stereo are missing. All the interior parts come with it but i'll have to reassemble it. Electronically everything seems to work though and overall the body looks pretty straight except for the one dent and it's only got 167k on the chassis.
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