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Old 12-27-2011, 05:22 PM
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Scam or good deal?

92 Honda Prelude Si(JDM H22a swap)


the dude said theres 255xxx on the dash but its a jdm h22a swap with 90k miles. look at the pictures and tell me if thats a jdm h22a motor. i dont wanna be scammed. thanks
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Re: Scam or good deal?

It'll say H22A stamped on the block
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:46 PM
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Re: Scam or good deal?

jdm engines should produce more power than just 185, more likely usdm/edm engine
but does it matter anyway if the engine runs ok
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Re: Scam or good deal?

Yeah thats why im curious if its really a jdm engine.

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Re: Scam or good deal?

& yeah it does lol i dont want an engine with 255k miles on it..
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Re: Scam or good deal?

it can be usdm/edm swap with just that 90k miles?

he should have receipt about the engine. if its really 90k driven
it shouldnt matter where its from
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well he dont and he said he didnt even do the swap. the guy before him did..
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Re: Scam or good deal?

its all about the maintenance. no matter if the engine is 90k or 200k driven, it should last pretty well if its maintenanced properly.

engine with 90k and poor maintenance could be worse than 200k well maintenanced
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i asked him if he ever replaced anything on the engine like water pump, timing belt, head gaskets etc. and he said no not ever since ive had it.
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& he said he put 20-30k miles since he had it
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the engine stamp does say h22a on it. why does it only produce 185 hp? thats kinda weird right?
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Re: Scam or good deal?

185 whp?
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yeah 185
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Re: Scam or good deal?

It's a 92 and in 92 preludes in the US didn't come with H22's so the car definitely didn't come with that engine. I would run a compression test to get a good idea of what kind of condition the engine is in.
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Re: Scam or good deal?

Yea H22a in 92 is not stock usdm, I got a h22a in my 93 and I swapped it myself lol so I know its swapped.
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Re: Scam or good deal?

mabey not a scam but i would pass.
get a stock lude
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Re: Scam or good deal?

Good luck with the lude if you do get, fun cars to drive.
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Re: Scam or good deal?

I'm not getting it. I already have a 98 lude but with a blown engine. My dad is looking for a new engine for me. hopefully he finds me one!
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I'm not getting it. I already have a 98 lude but with a blown engine. My dad is looking for a new engine for me. hopefully he finds me one!
i can find you one but its going to be from miami
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Re: Scam or good deal?

It is 185 whp on a Dyno also there is no windshield ... I would inspect the car but for the Hp it is normal.
And keep in mind that it is H22A not H22A Type S
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H22A hp 200@6800rpm tq 219nm@5500rmp comp 10.6:1 JDM 92-01 Prelude, Accord SiR

H22A1 hp 190@6800rpm tq 214nm@5500rpm comp 10.0:1 USDM 92-96 Prelude
H22A2 hp 185@6800rpm tq 215nm@5300rpm comp 10.0:1 EDM 92-96 Prelude
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Should I get it or just stick with my lude and drop a new engine in it?
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lol you know that things been raped by that kid, get an unmolested stocker
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Yea probably. im just gonna drop a new engine in mine lol.
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jdm engines should produce more power than just 185, more likely usdm/edm engine
but does it matter anyway if the engine runs ok
Actually, 185whp is where it should be at with a healthy H22. I've seen 160ish whp dyno'd H22s and those are low numbers.

OP, I never like the idea of buying someone else's work. When something goes wrong, I have no clue on where to look or start out with. On all of my swaps, I know where exactly to look because I know what I did to it and what not. Just drop a new engine in your current whip.
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Actually, 185whp is where it should be at with a healthy H22. I've seen 160ish whp dyno'd H22s and those are low numbers.
you cant get 185 whp from stock h22 (well with Type S/SiR/Euro R you might)
160whp sounds pretty normal stock h22, of course you can take it to the some rubbish dyno which add few dozen ponies, but
it has nothing to do with reality. there is always powerloss of some kind. not everything goes straight to the ground/wheels

its pretty rare that they announce wheel hp.
its more common to use engine hp (like all of those official advertisements are engine hp because of course, its higher)

in europe in most dynos you cant even get wheel hp's!

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you cant get 185 whp from stock h22 (well with Type S/SiR/Euro R you might)
160whp sounds pretty normal stock h22, of course you can take it to the some rubbish dyno which add few dozen ponies, but
it has nothing to do with reality. there is always powerloss of some kind. not everything goes straight to the ground/wheels

its pretty rare that they announce wheel hp.
its more common to use engine hp (like all of those official advertisements are engine hp because of course, its higher)

in europe in most dynos you cant even get wheel hp's!
I don't know what you mean by "stock". When I say stock, I mean stock internals. Just I/H/E + IM & TB. Seeing that the seller with that H22A the OP posted has I/H/E, so that puts him in the right zone. Here's my buddy's H22A4 internally stock with I/H/E with Skunk2 IM & TB that dyno'd 190.9whp 150ish tq, so to me, that H22 that the OP posted sounds about right.:

And of course, there's always a 15% drivetrain loss. Not new to me. JDM H22s are rated 200hp to the crank, so 180 to the wheel sounds about right with just I/H/E considering there's 15% drivetrain loss. 160 to the wheel sounds low, most of my H22 buddies will put down 170whp or some sort which is decent. And when I say wheel horse power, I'm talking about power putting to the ground while being tuned on a dyno. The only time when I use engine hp is when I'm talking about power to the flywheel, but when a car is tuned on dyno? I'm going to use whp. Here in the US, we go by whp when you're talking about power to the ground and not flwheel horsepower.
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I don't know what you mean by "stock". When I say stock, I mean stock internals. Just I/H/E + IM & TB. Seeing that the seller with that H22A the OP posted has I/H/E, so that puts him in the right zone.
when I say stock = completely stock. nothing upgraded.

I/H/E doesnt usually make any noticiable power.
Like its most of the times this: AEM CAI + megan/dc/obx header + some 60mm catback = 6-8hp gains? not far from completely stock.
minus that powerloss.

but you have point there. it can be that jdm.... or then its not that whp

well when my car was in dyno and it made 224 hp with just CAI+ported head+skunk2 IM+60mm catback+dc header+aem pulleys.. it doesnt sound right that that would be whp with powerloss but really that doesnt matter right now, more power to come. new header arrived yesterday to our customs and cams and other goods are waiting here

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