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Ive been thinking and researching and thinking and researching on this and i have decided i want no boost i want all motor but...... always a but, i want to swap the head ive heard do h23 head, do f22b1 head or an a6 head im confused and i need some help from some of you masters on here. What would be my best bet, what are the optimal power gains i can get ( i know that h23 head are mainly swapped for boost but itd be a cool frankenstein build) from each im not looking for a beast car just a strong reliable daily driver that has good power but can also hold its own. so far ive chipped it, cai, pulled out cruise control and a/c, headers and exhaust. about it and i plan on having this car till i die i love it. ive also done some visual stuff like painted valve cover jdm one peice headlights, blackout taillights simple stuff. just thought i would throw those out there. But anyone who has done one of these head swaps i would love some opinion on how it is and how much it cost and what i will need all together. Thanks guyss!!

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Re: F22a1 naturally aspirated rebuild

Your best/reliable option and pretty much your cheapest from money and time spent to power gained would be to do a full h22 or h23 swap into the car.

Having said that. I like the idea of keeping the f22 in it and modifying it correctly can lead to great gains depening on what you are wanting to spend. Getting real power from it NA will not be cheap. I'm not a fan or a pro of the "G" builds so I'll let someone else chime in on that.

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Re: F22a1 naturally aspirated rebuild

I meet this kid a couple of weeks ago with an accord and he had an f22 block with h22 head. Not sure what all was done to it but it beat my buddys ls vtec turbo integra and that has around 250 hp
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Your best/reliable option and pretty much your cheapest from money and time spent to power gained would be to do a full h22 or h23 swap into the car.

Having said that. I like the idea of keeping the f22 in it and modifying it correctly can lead to great gains depening on what you are wanting to spend. Getting real power from it NA will not be cheap. I'm not a fan or a pro of the "G" builds so I'll let someone else chime in on that.

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true true ive thought about a h swap but i like the thought of the amount of boost the f can handle if i ever did want to boost her. im not afraid to invest time into her because its an amazing car and i want to it to be able to be in sow s and get looks but an f22a1 engine without boost doesnt get looks except for ugly ones lol i plan on rebuilding the motor anyway just to have a clean brand new type engine cuz im starting to run into problems here and there
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I meet this kid a couple of weeks ago with an accord and he had an f22 block with h22 head. Not sure what all was done to it but it beat my buddys ls vtec turbo integra and that has around 250 hp
damn but im betting that the block was dohc vtec and unfortunatly my f22 is sohc non vtec, but u have seen an f22a1 with nos beat a subaru wrx sti.........wait for it only by a bumper though haha so maybe the driver of the wrx was bad at shifting
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just boost it
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If you build for NA then decided to go to boost you would either have to backtrack or be very careful about how you approach a turbo set up.
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If you build for NA then decided to go to boost you would either have to backtrack or be very careful about how you approach a turbo set up.
oh yeah def ive learned my lesson many a times with civic builds(boost).....i.e. why i got a prelude i just know how tight the space is in f22a1 with a turbo you have to replace quite a few parts just to have 1/2" or less of space between certain parts.
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Just woundering what's ur spending cap
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well after all my court stuff is taken care of......id say about 5-6k maybe less
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since im kinnda new to some stuff quick question what exacly is bb1 bb2 etc?
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Re: F22a1 naturally aspirated rebuild

Chassis code. To be honest if ur thinking about boosting it later on u might as well just go ahead and do it now, and keep building it up from there 5-6 grand is a preety good speending cap and u can swap the head and puttogether a good turbo kit. But in the end its ur car, just do what u want with it
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wow i feel like an idiot now chassis code of course after all the times i looked at it lol.

ok thanks for the input just need some other opinions on what would be fast yet reliable for a dd and last a while before needing an overhaul again. I was also debating on popping in some spray


on another note would anybody know what gauges will fit in a 94 prelude i want to swap the oems out but i have no idea what will fit
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You can make more than serious numbers on a completely stock f22a1 with the right turbo set up and tune with that spending cap.
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twokexlv6coupe made 250hp and 275tq on a stock f22a1 and drove it as his DD on 10psi with his set up. Just look around the FI section.
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If u put spray I would go with zex 50 wet shot. Just becarful and do it right. But ur probably going to be better of NA or boosted
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You can make more than serious numbers on a completely stock f22a1 with the right turbo set up and tune with that spending cap.
yea i know since they good compression for the boost i figured i could run about 9psi and have it reliable but the space in the engine bay which you have to work with is tight, considering i need it to be a daily driver to work and back and have it be able to take long road trips for show and meets i havent actually done a turbo build myself just helpes out with them on civics mainly preludes are not common around my area. and everytime ive seen a civic boosted sure enough it blows months later, maybe they didnt do it right or what not idk, but im a perfectionist so hopefully i wont have a problem
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i might just boost it i was just hesitant in doing it i dont want a blown engine a couple thousands miles down the road, any suggestions on turbos.

The thought of NA engines is nice though
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someone i know has a t23 i think or something like that i cant remember i was drunk would that work
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To be honest I'm not sure what would be a good size turbo for ur car, mabey a gt28? Someone more expirenced will help u out I'm sure
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alright thanks guys ive been talking to camshafted the guy who did the frankenstein f22 bottom and h23 about this too, i might just go boost after hearing this cuz what ive heard boosted engine dont last long but thats why i came here i had to learn somehow, and googling frankenstein builds pops up mainly k series swap and i dont wana dish out money for that. ill post a thread when i get started on it Thanks guys!!
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G series motors (H head on F block) are BEAST....HOWEVER, they are mutt motors n not very reliable. I had the G22 awhile back. Basically anyway u slice it ur gonna lay out a good bit of money for noticeable power. Reliability is a b1tch the more u have done to ur car. If its ur DD do bolts ons n a good tune n call it a day. Once u tamper with internals its an entirely dif ball game. I have an H22A with bolt ons n im makin just shy of 200whp. Its qwik to say the least
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Re: F22a1 naturally aspirated rebuild

Talk to singlecammerjammer. Hes helping me out with my n/a build for a good DD. Hes got a f22a6 cam and i/h/e and he keeps up with h23s. I'm doing an h23 intake manifold f22a6 camshaft then the normal i/h/e job that everybody does. Should get me a little bit quicker than h23's but then again my lude is also on a strict diet.
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