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THE JDM H23a VTEC ?

Hey all, haven't been here in a long time...Engine blew on the lude over a year ago, in the mean time picked up my other love a Jeep Wrangler...Now with the new job it's time to get my prelude up and running again...I think by early March I should have enough money saved up to do what I want to the car, so for the time being trying to figure things out...

Here is the deal, I have a 1992 Honda Prelude Si. 5 speed, want to get rid of the H23 that is in it, and go to a H23a Vtec. I know that H23a vtec only came in Automatic, so what all needs to be done to have it go into my 5 speed si? Also I know I will have to do OBDII to OBDI. Is there anyone here that has experience with this swap and can help me out on the list of things I need to do? I have a lot of experience working on cars and know I capable of doing this swap but just need to make sure I get all the right parts lined up. I also want to go turbo on this setup, I appreciate any input you guys have and apologize in advance if this topic has been covered before didn't find all that I needed through the search tool...
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Re: THE JDM H23a VTEC ?

what H23 VTEC are you talking about that only came auto? if youre going turbo why not just go with a H22? it will cost you less
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Re: THE JDM H23a VTEC ?

f22/h22 combo and its good for boost
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Re: THE JDM H23a VTEC ?

Found in the Japanese 1998-2002 Accord Wagon SiR (Blue Top)
Found in the Japanese 1998-2002 Accord Wagon AWD (Blue Top)
As far as I know/have seen they only come in Auto from those cars...
Just trying to do something rare, don't want to go with an H22
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Re: THE JDM H23a VTEC ?

you plan on building the blue top?
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Re: THE JDM H23a VTEC ?

Not for now, will just run low boost 7 or 8 psi tops...Just need some info on the whole swap, anybody have experience with it here in a 4th gen???
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f22/h22 combo and its good for boost
I would not reccomend the g22 unless its only a weekend or track car. Strong motor but even properly built its life span only averages 70-100k. I used to have it lol
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Not for now, will just run low boost 7 or 8 psi tops...Just need some info on the whole swap, anybody have experience with it here in a 4th gen???
good luck buying aftermarket parts for H23A when you do plan to build the block or after you mess up the FRM walls with "low boost"
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^ how long would it take to "mess up" the FRM walls on low boost?
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never tried it lol. my boy qnzlude or w/e the f*** his name is was boosted on a stock motor he had no problems but he baby'd the car never ran it.

the H23a1 and H23A have the same rods and crank(right? waits for someone to answer) for less money you can make your H23a1 into an H23A with H22 head
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Re: THE JDM H23a VTEC ?

H23 boosted is the best option. Don't have to worry about VTEC or the high compression that comes with the VTEC H-series.
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Re: THE JDM H23a VTEC ?

Idk I might look into an H22 obdI , I just really want the h23a vtec blue top, something that not a lot of other people have, I just want it to be unique. There just isn't a lot of info on the blue tops for support...
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the H23a1 and H23A have the same rods and crank(right? waits for someone to answer) for less money you can make your H23a1 into an H23A with H22 head
sounds like a beast to me
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Idk I might look into an H22 obdI , I just really want the h23a vtec blue top, something that not a lot of other people have, I just want it to be unique. There just isn't a lot of info on the blue tops for support...

its not like of you put in an H23A people will come up to you and say "OMGZ LOOK A H23 VTEC BLUE TOP OMG SO COOL".. the blue top is the H22 head with an open deck H23 block with H23 crank and rods woohhooo big whoop lets have mac n cheese

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Re: THE JDM H23a VTEC ?

If you really wan to be different, why not go f22?
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Re: THE JDM H23a VTEC ?

the blue top is a strong motor despite what people will tell you ... i wouldnt pick it if i was going to go boost on stock internals hell i wouldnt boost anything on stock internals .. some of the sir accords did in fact come with a manual tranny and despite what a lot of people say about them not having squirters on the bottom end mine does ( i cant speak for them all ) .. people say it redlines at 6800 well i can say that ive run mine out to 7500 ( yes it still pulls strong all the way to redline ) and ive got 24 thousand miles of beating it like it owes me money and it starts right up and purrrs like a kitten every time ... the blue top is a cheap alternative to the h22 as it is about 500 less to buy and makes the same hp and a little more tq at a lower rpm than a standard h22 ... if your going boost it build it . if you want it to last anytime at all and you dont feel like paying twice to do it right once do it right the first time ...
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Re: THE JDM H23a VTEC ?

I would tell you from personal experience that the swap to a H23 bluetop is not worth the hassle. But then again I swapped mine from F22a1 to H23 bluetop (car originally had a H23a1 and my swap isn't finished). Since you have the H23a1 in there now you should be able to use all the parts needed for that swap (alternator, fuel rail, etc.).
The 5-speed you have will bolt right up to the H23 bluetop.
You are correct about the H23A only coming auto (with slap shift).
I would agree with everyone else when telling you that a OBD1 H22A would probably be in your best interest.
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I would tell you from personal experience that the swap to a H23 bluetop is not worth the hassle. But then again I swapped mine from F22a1 to H23 bluetop (car originally had a H23a1 and my swap isn't finished). Since you have the H23a1 in there now you should be able to use all the parts needed for that swap (alternator, fuel rail, etc.).
The 5-speed you have will bolt right up to the H23 bluetop.
You are correct about the H23A only coming auto (with slap shift).
I would agree with everyone else when telling you that a OBD1 H22A would probably be in your best interest.
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Ok man, thanks for your help...And everyone else's here as well I have some thinking to do over this winter and some saving to do as well.
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Re: THE JDM H23a VTEC ?

Kk real quick. I have 2 Honda's both had an h23a bluetop from sir-t, One i tore down and im working on puttin a huge ls9 chevy in it. The other, Still runs, Just have a few things done to it.

The Prelude i drive daily is a monster. NA. And pulls on gt mustangs like no tomorrow. I have an exhaust from the junkyard off some random lude that sounded crazy. Easy steal. Other then that. It's chipped on a p28 chrome. AEM v2 intake. vtec kicks at 4500rpm rather than w/e the stock is. i had to move the battery to my trunk. It does idle weird, dunno why but it's not hurting anything so not fixing it. The other day took out a boosted bubble with ease. I say go for it. h23a is a kickass motor no matter what street your on.
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Kk real quick. I have 2 Honda's both had an h23a bluetop from sir-t, One i tore down and im working on puttin a huge ls9 chevy in it. The other, Still runs, Just have a few things done to it.

The Prelude i drive daily is a monster. NA. And pulls on gt mustangs like no tomorrow. I have an exhaust from the junkyard off some random lude that sounded crazy. Easy steal. Other then that. It's chipped on a p28 chrome. AEM v2 intake. vtec kicks at 4500rpm rather than w/e the stock is. i had to move the battery to my trunk. It does idle weird, dunno why but it's not hurting anything so not fixing it. The other day took out a boosted bubble with ease. I say go for it. h23a is a kickass motor no matter what street your on.


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