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Old 10-18-2011, 06:06 PM
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Re: 94 prelude si

It's really hard to say whats going on with the quality of video you have.
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Re: 94 prelude si

it makes like a big knocking and it drove to the end of the driveway butt i didnt wanna ruin the car
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Re: 94 prelude si

i've heard its easy to spin a bearing in those h23's, but it could be any number of things. i'd take it to a mechanic if you're not comfortable with engine internals.
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Re: 94 prelude si

if it is a bearing is that alott of work
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Old 10-18-2011, 08:08 PM
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Re: 94 prelude si

If it is a spun bear... witch it sound like it is, It really depends on the damage. Most spun bearing that I hear about result in the block being completely ruined.
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how do i tell
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Re: 94 prelude si

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PUll the engine out, remove the crank and inspect it. In all honesty all most everyone that i speak to about it dont even go through that hassle. They just replace the motor. And money it will take you to pull it, or pay some one to pull it, take the engine apart, inspect it, fix it, put it back together then put it back in the car. It won't be worth it.
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Re: 94 prelude si

Definitely sounds like a spun bearing. Seen many before.
Get her diagnosed in person by a mechanic if you feel otherwise.

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PUll the engine out, remove the crank and inspect it. In all honesty all most everyone that i speak to about it dont even go through that hassle. They just replace the motor. And money it will take you to pull it, or pay some one to pull it, take the engine apart, inspect it, fix it, put it back together then put it back in the car. It won't be worth it.
I agree ^ Unfortunately even if you have the mechanical know-how, its a very tedious job, and while your in there im sure you might find something else. For the labor and cost of parts at a shop your looking to pay way more than the cost of a jdm motor with like 45k on it. would be your best bet.

In my Mechanical opinion this is a spun rod bearing causing the the piston connecting rod to hit the main crank cap ie the loud metal on metal sound. This has happened to my sisters car f20, And my friends H23. Both were the cause of a spun bearing. Keep us posted man, Sorry about the car.
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Re: 94 prelude si

I'm on my second H23 and if I could take it all back I would have just got a H22a.. My last one had crank walk and punched a hole through the block. I.M.O., trash it, and start over (if it isn't worth it to fix)
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Re: 94 prelude si

Ouch, Yeah, Perks of owning a car man. Constant investment =/
But when everything falls together and she purrs nicely again no doubt you will smile like a kid!
Least i did lol.
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Re: 94 prelude si

not to thread jack.

Is there any aftermarket companies that make better bearing for h23 to prevent the somewhat easy symptom?
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Re: 94 prelude si

The h23a1 is pretty much dead. Practically no one uses them in the aftermarket. They are built weak and the stroke is just to harsh on the crank. They don't have suffice oil circation for high rpms. Just by a h22. Imo they are much more dependable and give 4th gens that extra umph.
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The h23a1 is pretty much dead. Practically no one uses them in the aftermarket. They are built weak and the stroke is just to harsh on the crank. They don't have suffice oil circation for high rpms. Just by a h22. Imo they are much more dependable and give 4th gens that extra umph.
I don't know if they are weak, or people just miss treat them by constantly driving near redline.
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Re: 94 prelude si

They aren't weak. They have plenty of low end torque. I'd say enough to take a H22 off the line. I know cuz I can take my friend in his 2006 A4 with basic bolt ons off the start.

But I do hear they spin bearing rather more often than H22's.
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Re: 94 prelude si

Thats pretty debatable though, My friends 4th gen and my 5th gen when both were stock vs stock, i pulled him everytime. Even after he did his basic bolt ons intake/header/exhaust and i was still stock, i beat him.
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