Honda Prelude Forum
 
Go Back   Honda Prelude Forum > Tech-Talk > 4th Gen Honda Prelude

Thread Title
H23 VTEC Ethanol Fuel in Brazil - Starting NOW!

 
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 09-02-2011, 03:40 PM
I'm New
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 6
iTrader: (0)
Paolo is on a distinguished road
Icon10 H23 VTEC Ethanol Fuel in Brazil - Starting NOW!

Im Paolo Calicchio, I live in Sao Paulo, Brazil, and I love Hondas!
I've had Eg9, EG6 B16a2, EJ1 b16a3 and now I'm trying to project a more "exclusive", at least here in Brazil. H23 VTEC! I have a Prelude H23A1, a car is not very common here in Brazil, Prelude h22 must have existed at most 10 units here, so a complete H22 engine is very expensive, can cost up to $ 10,000.
My friend was traveling to the United States and brought me a full head h22 (head, intake Maniflold, cams, injectors etc ...) and the little I can understand the topics in this forum, missing a few parts like water pumps, oil pump, pulleys, ECU and other.
I use ethanol fuel, due to poor quality of gasoline in Brazil. With ethanol able to draw off more power with less damage, no problems with sludge and etc. .. Here in Brazil modifying cars is very common, but 98% of the cars are modified TURBO, AP volkswagen 1.8 engine, and a few hondas and B16T D16T, but the cars more powerful and successful use ethanol as fuel.

I created this topic so that you can help me, I do not speak English very well researched on this forum h23vtec and understood little, I saw a lot of speculation, I hope to learn a lot from you! If you have someone who has done this swap, please help me, I started the project and will finish it! = D

From what I understand until now researching here in this forum, first I need these parts, right?

"
h22 cams seals and valve cover gasket is recommend
as well as h23 crank seal since everything is off
h22 water pump (vtec has more teeth)
h22 waterpipe
h22 thermostat housing
h22 head gasket
h22 crank gear (vtec has more teeth)
h22 timing belt (vtec has more teeth)
h22 head studs (h23 studs are shorter, I recommend ARP head studs)
h22 spark plug wires (h23 spark plug wires are shorter)
U also need to run a vtec wire through your harness (I'm using a AFC to control my vtec, so that way u dnt need a h22 ECU)
H22 headers, h22 exahust manifold gasket (h23 doesn't line up)
And with a 10mm bolt get the oil restrictor out (its in the middle/back of the block)
h22 distributor
h22 complete head (vtec solenoid, intake manifold, cams, cams gears, injectors, and throttle body, make sure it has all the sensors)
*I'm not sure if the h23 manifold fits on the h22 head since I had an h22 manifold i just throw that on
*be sure to torque all the bolts on the head
*If your h23 distributor had an external coil and your h22 distributor has an internal coil, your going to have to run switch a couple of wires of the harness plugs
*And also lube the cams while your putting them on
*Also I recommend to resurface the h22 head and make sure that the h23 block surface is clean and oil free as well as the h22 head bottom surface (dnt touch at all this surfaces once they are clean) u can clean it really good with carburetor cleaner
*be careful with the balancers (take off a 12mm bolt on the back of the block by the back balancer and put a "

The Car:



These are the parts that I bought:


Engine Project Performance:

I want to prioritize a brand with a good cost-benefit, and found it interesting and Bisimoto Skunk 2, as the brand offers more Skunk 2 performance parts for the h22 bisimoto that I intend to buy all Skunk 2. What do you think?
The only question I have is in relation to the Skunk MANIFLOLD INTAKE, told me that no good and the original is better, and would only have to change the trottle body. I want to buy:

Hondata s300
Pistons h22 forjed
cams stage 3 skunk 2
valves skunk 2
valves springs skunk 2
pulley cam gears skunk 2
Intake Maniflold Skunk 2
trottle body skunk 2
Header 4x1 skunk 2
exaust Skunk 2
cold air intake AEM v2



Opinions? Questions? Suggestions? Critical?

I'm sorry for my english, I'm a bit of trouble and sometimes use a translator.
I count on your help! Thank you!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 09-02-2011, 04:04 PM
Phantom240's Avatar
Platinum Member

 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Slidell, LA
Posts: 2,388
iTrader: (3)
Phantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: H23 VTEC Ethanol Fuel in Brazil - Starting NOW!

If you don't plan to turbo the H22, don't get the Skunk2 intake manifold. I don't think Skunk2 makes a header for the H22 either. If you want to run forged pistons in the H22, you will need to re-sleeve the block with ductile iron sleeves.

Otherwise, very nice Prelude.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by bykfixer View Post
it'll sound like an ultralight airplane or a moped exhaust funneled through a kazoo.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 09-02-2011, 05:48 PM
Bronze Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 126
iTrader: (1)
micjp noob
Re: H23 VTEC Ethanol Fuel in Brazil - Starting NOW!

why not get the Skunk2 intake manifold if not planing to turbo it, i ask this because i have one and i do not have turbo nor do i plan on getting it.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 09-02-2011, 07:03 PM
Phantom240's Avatar
Platinum Member

 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Slidell, LA
Posts: 2,388
iTrader: (3)
Phantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: H23 VTEC Ethanol Fuel in Brazil - Starting NOW!

Because the Skunk2 manifold's gain in the upper RPM range isn't big enough to justify the loss of power throughout the rest of the range. The F20B manifold does much better.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by bykfixer View Post
it'll sound like an ultralight airplane or a moped exhaust funneled through a kazoo.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 09-03-2011, 02:00 AM
andrey's Avatar
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 598
iTrader: (2)
andrey has a reputation beyond reputeandrey has a reputation beyond reputeandrey has a reputation beyond reputeandrey has a reputation beyond reputeandrey has a reputation beyond reputeandrey has a reputation beyond reputeandrey has a reputation beyond reputeandrey has a reputation beyond reputeandrey has a reputation beyond reputeandrey has a reputation beyond reputeandrey has a reputation beyond repute
Re: H23 VTEC Ethanol Fuel in Brazil - Starting NOW!

so skunk i.m wont give you any gains period until u get boost?
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 09-03-2011, 07:56 AM
Vipers4Life's Avatar
Internet Badass

 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,492
iTrader: (1)
Vipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond reputeVipers4Life has a reputation beyond repute
Re: H23 VTEC Ethanol Fuel in Brazil - Starting NOW!

Quote:
Originally Posted by andrey View Post
so skunk i.m wont give you any gains period until u get boost?
No it will give you gains, but not until very high in the rpm band.
__________________

http://www.preludezone.com/members-r...e-01-base.html
Check out my ride here!^^
Quote:
Originally Posted by twokexlv6coupe View Post
if it's knocking, don't answer it. it's prolly nothing but bad news bears.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brash22 View Post
As much as I'd love to see this done, I offer you the same comment I offer everybody else: There's no point in being the first to do something if you're second across the finish line.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 09-03-2011, 12:05 PM
Phantom240's Avatar
Platinum Member

 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Slidell, LA
Posts: 2,388
iTrader: (3)
Phantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: H23 VTEC Ethanol Fuel in Brazil - Starting NOW!

Right. It produced gains at like 6500rpm. And on top of that, you have to relocate the IACV and all kinds of bullsh!t.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by bykfixer View Post
it'll sound like an ultralight airplane or a moped exhaust funneled through a kazoo.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 09-03-2011, 01:47 PM
Codyh's Avatar
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: OHIO
Posts: 1,436
iTrader: (0)
Codyh is infamous around these partsCodyh is infamous around these partsCodyh is infamous around these partsCodyh is infamous around these partsCodyh is infamous around these partsCodyh is infamous around these partsCodyh is infamous around these partsCodyh is infamous around these partsCodyh is infamous around these partsCodyh is infamous around these partsCodyh is infamous around these parts
Re: H23 VTEC Ethanol Fuel in Brazil - Starting NOW!

Wow that lude is so clean with those wheels. I am a huge advocate for lowering cars and what not, and from what i can see yours is pretty stock height. but for some weird reason i just like it! Just looks so clean..
__________________
Cody's Build. 4th gen full shave and tuck! Thanks for folowing guys!
Sponsors
Call Xavier at Wireworx Harnesses For your custom wiring harness! 407-388-58009
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 09-03-2011, 02:26 PM
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 251
iTrader: (2)
preludekid516 has a reputation beyond reputepreludekid516 has a reputation beyond reputepreludekid516 has a reputation beyond reputepreludekid516 has a reputation beyond reputepreludekid516 has a reputation beyond reputepreludekid516 has a reputation beyond reputepreludekid516 has a reputation beyond reputepreludekid516 has a reputation beyond reputepreludekid516 has a reputation beyond reputepreludekid516 has a reputation beyond reputepreludekid516 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: H23 VTEC Ethanol Fuel in Brazil - Starting NOW!

very nice lude. and by the way your english is better than alot of other people on here that live in the USA. lol
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 09-04-2011, 01:51 AM
Phantom240's Avatar
Platinum Member

 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Slidell, LA
Posts: 2,388
iTrader: (3)
Phantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond reputePhantom240 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: H23 VTEC Ethanol Fuel in Brazil - Starting NOW!

What wheels are those, anyway? They don't look like legit Work CR-KAI wheels, but I don't know any company that makes a knockoff in our bolt pattern.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by bykfixer View Post
it'll sound like an ultralight airplane or a moped exhaust funneled through a kazoo.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
h23vtec h23 vtec


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Starting an h23 vtec build for 5th gen lude! BRSoll1484 5th Gen Honda Prelude 10 05-17-2011 03:04 PM
Fuel Filter/Fuel Pump & Turn Signals My97Prelude 5th Gen Honda Prelude 9 08-25-2010 11:37 AM
best gas? ethanol crap ninety3lude General Tech Talk 0 10-16-2007 11:31 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:45 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2 © 2011, Crawlability, Inc.
vB.Sponsors


Copyright © 2006-2009 PreludeZone.com All Rights Reserved.