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Crank bolt direction

Hello I have tried searching everywhere on this forum and also my manual and it doesnot say anywhere what directon to loosen the crank bolt. Is it clock wise or counter clockwise. And also I was wondering if anyone has tried running their engines without the balancing shafts hooked up. Would it do any damage to the engine if I ran it without the belt. This is a stock car so looking to get any extra power possible. thanks for any help
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Lefty loosey, righty tighty. otherwise; counter clockwise to loosen, clockwise to tighten
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Re: Crank bolt direction

Haha you shouldn't have any problem with the direction of the crank bolt...

People run their cars with out ballancer shaft belt all the time, frees it up to rev a little easier. You can also get a legit kit that helps with weight reduction also.
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Lefty loosey, righty tighty. otherwise; counter clockwise to loosen, clockwise to tighten
Haha you were a lot nicer than I was going to be on that part lol
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Re: Crank bolt direction

personally, I wouldn't remove the balance shafts or remove the belt on a stock block...just doesn't make sense to me. leave it on, keep vibration down and eliminate if/when you decide to heavily mod the block.
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^ I would totally remove it, free up some your revs for free? Sounds like a good plan to me lol
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Re: Crank bolt direction

you have to turn it counter clockwise, however it is a huge PITA to get it loose. If you youtube some videos you will see how people had to do it..

when i took mine off, even a 1" impact gun couldnt get it, you need the tool that holds the crank still while you turn the bolt.

oh mine was loctited on too.. so maybe you wont have as much trouble haha.
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I broke maybe three 19mm sockets easy trying to get that damn bolt off its alot easier with the motor out though lol....
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^ I would totally remove it, free up some your revs for free? Sounds like a good plan to me lol
I heard the vibrations from the balancer shaft removed cause some real nasty vibrations to the driver...but I still plan on testing it out myself
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Re: Crank bolt direction

Gotta have at least 1/2" drive tools and the special pulley holder tool. Use a 6pt socket, and enough drive extensions to extend outside the fender. Support the extensions on a jackstand at a location near your breaker bar. Might need to use a 4ft long cheater pipe, and bounce on it a few times. POW!! Yep, its tight! I think 180 lbs/ft application torque, so the breakaway torque is likely over 200 lbs/ft. And yes, LEFTY LOOSEY!
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Gotta have at least 1/2" drive tools and the special pulley holder tool. Use a 6pt socket, and enough drive extensions to extend outside the fender. Support the extensions on a jackstand at a location near your breaker bar. Might need to use a 4ft long cheater pipe, and bounce on it a few times. POW!! Yep, its tight! I think 180 lbs/ft application torque, so the breakaway torque is likely over 200 lbs/ft. And yes, LEFTY LOOSEY!
The more extensions you use, the harder it'll be for you to turn it.

Anyway, you can skip the balance shaft belt if you want. The eliminator kits don't really seem worth. Costs $200 to save 8lbs. They will increase oil pressure slightly since they block off the ports that otherwise lube the balance shafts
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Haha you were a lot nicer than I was going to be on that part lol
Ha Ha...I know it was a stupid question but I wanted to be sure that was the right direction.
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personally, I wouldn't remove the balance shafts or remove the belt on a stock block...just doesn't make sense to me. leave it on, keep vibration down and eliminate if/when you decide to heavily mod the block.
Like I said this is a stock car that runs on a dirt oval track. A little vibration shouldn't even be noticed. Might even be enjoyed when our lady driver drives..ha ha
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I heard the vibrations from the balancer shaft removed cause some real nasty vibrations to the driver...but I still plan on testing it out myself
I plan on doing this on the weekend so I will let you know if its as bad as some people say.
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I plan on doing this on the weekend so I will let you know if its as bad as some people say.
Oh forgot to mention this is a 2.2 vtec if that matters.
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Like I said this is a stock car that runs on a dirt oval track. A little vibration shouldn't even be noticed. Might even be enjoyed when our lady driver drives..ha ha
completely missed that last sentance in the OP. I was assuming it was a DD, but in the case of a stock car, eliminate...
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'The more extensions you use, the harder it'll be for you to turn it.'

That's why you use a jackstand or other suitable support near the breaker bar end of the extensions as a pivot support. I think I used 6" and 10" extensions to get the breaker bar outside the fender. Then you got all the swing room and angle positioning you need. I saw this method on a video clip. IT WORKS!! Using a 4 ft cheater pipe and a few bounces of my 170 lbs......POP!
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Re: Crank bolt direction

Thanks for all the help. Ordered a crank pully holder tool, should be here today. When I change the timing belt I think I will leave the balancing shaft belt off. Any little bit helps as this car is pitted against a Neon srx turbo. Our one main competition.
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Nice. Like you said, let me know how the vibrations feel without the balancer shaft on.
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Re: Crank bolt direction

Well I changed the timing belt. Had to make my own pulley holder as none available in Canada. I didn't leave the balancing belt off like I was gonna because I think the rear balancing shaft runs the oil pump. Looked in my service manual and its not 100% clear so decided against it.
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