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Help, moon roof conversion

Alright, everything went in without any problems, but it won't open now or close without putting pressure on it. Can anybody offer up any advise? Thanks
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Re: Help, moon roof conversion

Putting pressure on it? Did you swap on only the glass panel, or did you swap the entire assembly?
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Re: Help, moon roof conversion

Only glass. I have to push down on the back of the glass for it to close all the way. I have tried loosening the four screws on each bracket just enough for them to move with a little pressure and I still can't figure this out.
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Re: Help, moon roof conversion

How did you mount the glass on the car? Which brackets did you use?

Pics would help.
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Btw, the glass and seal were like new. I'm going crazy trying to figure this out

I used the 4th gen brackets modified and only one shim per corner.

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Re: Help, moon roof conversion

This is the walkthrough i did my swap from:

Glass Moonroof Swap/

Notice he grinds off the two stopper things with rubber feet. Aside from the trimming of the rubber trim, which i did not do, and did not need to do, i followed this and i have no problems at all.

If it has trouble opening and closing perhaps the motor that opens and closes the panel is too tired to handle the extra weight of the glass panel.

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Re: Help, moon roof conversion

Yeah, I'm gonna get a new track and motor then. It worked pretty good before, but yout have to figure the car is a 92'
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Re: Help, moon roof conversion

I had that problem when I first test-fitted mine. Try removing the shims. It worked for me.
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Re: Help, moon roof conversion

I'll give that a shot, thanks.
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Re: Help, moon roof conversion

And if that doesn't work, just keep pushing it shut and eventually it should start shutting/opening without your help. That's what I did and it started working fine after about 2 days.
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Re: Help, moon roof conversion

Try and loosen all the bolts that hold the whole assembly and close it. Retighten the bolts and try it again.
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Re: Help, moon roof conversion

Did that, thanks for the reply though
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Re: Help, moon roof conversion

Oh okay. I read where you said the 4 screws. But I had the 10 or whatever it is that holds the entire assembly in. Maybe were talking about the same thing. I do have a motor and assembly I would sell cheap. It worked very well when I removed it. Actually a little better than what is currently in my car. If your interested pm me.
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Re: Help, moon roof conversion

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Oh okay. I read where you said the 4 screws. But I had the 10 or whatever it is that holds the entire assembly in. Maybe were talking about the same thing. I do have a motor and assembly I would sell cheap. It worked very well when I removed it. Actually a little better than what is currently in my car. If your interested pm me.
No, I just loosened all of the screws that hold the bracket to the rail. I'm gonna play with it more tomorrow to see what it might be.
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Re: Help, moon roof conversion

Thank you very much : )
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Thank you very much : )
For what? After messing with different shim combos and loosening stuff up all day I still didn't get it working. I did notice those little springs in there were broken, anybody have any close-ups of what they connect to and if that might be my issue?
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Re: Help, moon roof conversion

Has anybody tried using 5th gen rails, motor and everything on a 4th gen? I think I need to replace the whole assembly and am thinking about going with the 5th gen components since they would be newer than the 4th, but cheaper than new.
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Re: Help, moon roof conversion

Does your motor assembly move when the glass panel is not installed on the brackets? If it does i wouldnt go through the trouble of doing the entire assembly swap. It requires quite a bit of metal cutting and a little fabrication to use the entire assembly. Im trying to find the DIY walkthrough of the whole assembly i saw a few years ago but im not having any luck. Ill post it if i find it though.
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Re: Help, moon roof conversion

Slatelude is the guy to talk to about this. Give him a PM if you want his input.
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Re: Help, moon roof conversion

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Does your motor assembly move when the glass panel is not installed on the brackets? If it does i wouldnt go through the trouble of doing the entire assembly swap. It requires quite a bit of metal cutting and a little fabrication to use the entire assembly. Im trying to find the DIY walkthrough of the whole assembly i saw a few years ago but im not having any luck. Ill post it if i find it though.
Oyeah, it moves good. Its funny because when I loosen the glass bolts on the left side it'll open right up. I have tried every shim combo I could and that didn't work either
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Slatelude is the guy to talk to about this. Give him a PM if you want his input.
Yeah, with me being a new guy I don't want to bother somebody like that with a pm. Thanks though
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Oyeah, it moves good. Its funny because when I loosen the glass bolts on the left side it'll open right up. I have tried every shim combo I could and that didn't work either
Makes me wonder if a bracket is tweaked and doesnt let the panel fit right, or maybe even the panel is tweaked somehow.
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Re: Help, moon roof conversion

The car is straight. Its gotta be the rails our the whole assembly imo
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The car is straight. Its gotta be the rails our the whole assembly imo
Where do you live? Maybe you can find someone local with a different glass panel you can test fit to try and prove, or rule out that its the brackets or assembly.
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I live in southern mn
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Re: Help, moon roof conversion

This is so messed up, I just decided to try opening my roof again and the thing opened and closed fast and perfect. Unbelievable! After all the messing around, research and everything that's all it needed was some time for my car to get use to the transplant.
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that's all it needed was some time for my car to get use to the transplant.
I think I suggested that like a week ago. ahah
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Re: Help, moon roof conversion

You said that you had to keep pushing yours open and closed, I didn't touch mine till last night. It was probably because of the weather striping not being in a vehicle for a while??? There's my best guess
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It was probably because of the weather striping not being in a vehicle for a while??? There's my best guess
Sorry that's what I was basically getting at. I had to push it down a little bit every now and then until the weatherstripping around the glass got "used" to being in it's new spot.
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Re: Help, moon roof conversion

Hate to bump an old thread, but figured this will help from creating a new one...

Im going to be doing my conversion with in the next couple of weeks on a nice clear day, and am looking at some of the write-ups and now are so old I can view the images.

Like for instance, 92-96 Honda Prelude Moonroof Conversion Install Guide/FAQ - Honda Prelude Forum : Honda Prelude Forums

This one I got from NTPOG.com but is not the specific write up I want (this one is to keep provisions for the sun-shade. (im not interested in keeping it for multiple reasons) but heres the ink to this one...

5g sunroof conversion - NTPOG Forums

if anyone has a way to gather the pictures from the preludepower write up, or possibly any other websites regarding the install (that still has working pictures. That'd be great!

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