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Old 03-21-2011, 02:42 AM
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Painting the Lude... ::stumped:: =/

hey guys, im painting my lude a different color, as of right now i intend on doing the sanding and primer myself..

at this point, all i have sanded is the hood, roof, and TOP part of the trunk.. everything else is its' original color (red)..

i have sanded the places i have mentioned to mostly bare metal.. (wanted to make sure all the color is off) before i do the rest of the car like that, i wanted to know a few things..

i have read a few things here and there, every option is different and i cant get a good grasp..

so heres my question...

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Q1: Since i have sanded down the car to the metal, what primer do i use? the best kind. i want to go black primer if i can.. i.e. the name of it etc..

Q2: Can i buy that primer you mentioned at wal-mart? yes i want to use the cans. if not, will autozone or O'Reillys? --- (im only going to primer what i mentioned that are bare metal with the cans, not the whole car.)

Q3: after i prime, whats next? a wet sand? what grit?..
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if you would be so kind to just give me a list or order on how to do this, and what type/name of things and where to purchase it.. this will make me less stressed lol.. i will go to a professional to paint...

---> p.s. before i start working on everything else, like the sides and what not, should i continue on going down all the way to the bare metal? or should i just go down to the factory primer and go from there?
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Re: Painting the Lude... ::stumped:: =/

So far i got to the conclusion of-- when primer'ing bare metal, use a epoxy primer...

do i then use bodo and then RE-apply the epoxy? or do i bondo on the bare metal then use epoxy??


..anybody??
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Re: Painting the Lude... ::stumped:: =/

hey to sort of help with the painting i painted my lude about a few months back and for the primer you can use a few different ones like they have dupont primer or ppg primers. best bet would be to go to an auto store like carquests if you have those around your area or an autobody supply shop also if available. theyll let you know which chemicals you need to mix the primers correctly. i would try to stay away from canned primers only reason if you do big areas it doesnt apply to well and not the best stuff to sand for overall paint jobs. better off trying to get some on spray gun primer , harbour freight sells some good primer guns

heres the link to a decent one

20 Oz. High Volume Low Pressure Gravity Feed Spray Gun

i used the same one and it wasnt all that bad, after you spray the primer down about 2 -3 coats medium wet. like you make one pass with the gun usually a 6 in fan length and you make one pass and drop down so the next pass is about halfway in the middle of the recent. youll need a well vented area like a garage or one of those portable car storage tents, if a shop isnt readily available.

umm after you prime best bet would be wet sand if you want the car to look real nice it takes a little longer but it leaves you with a qualtiy finish. you want to get the sand paper at autozone they sell it by a packs and you just have to soak it in a bucket of warm water and soap thats how i prep cars cause the soap will clean and keep the surface clean and would gouge the primer. 500 grit would be your best bet itll cut down fast and wont clog as fast either. if you want better visual aid im sure youtube will have a few videos on car prepping.

thats what i can think of for now but ill deff keep you posted if i keep finding anything new, and good luck on the painting, wanna see how shell look with a fresh coat of paint on it. again sorry for the crappy expliantion YOUTUBE has videos thatll expalin what i mean anyways a few more links that might help

How to Prep and Paint a Car | eHow.com

Car Paint Steps, Tips, and Tricks: Automotive Paint, Auto Paint, Car Paint
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hey to sort of help with the painting i painted my lude about a few months back and for the primer you can use a few different ones like they have dupont primer or ppg primers. best bet would be to go to an auto store like carquests if you have those around your area or an autobody supply shop also if available. theyll let you know which chemicals you need to mix the primers correctly. i would try to stay away from canned primers only reason if you do big areas it doesnt apply to well and not the best stuff to sand for overall paint jobs. better off trying to get some on spray gun primer , harbour freight sells some good primer guns

heres the link to a decent one

20 Oz. High Volume Low Pressure Gravity Feed Spray Gun

i used the same one and it wasnt all that bad, after you spray the primer down about 2 -3 coats medium wet. like you make one pass with the gun usually a 6 in fan length and you make one pass and drop down so the next pass is about halfway in the middle of the recent. youll need a well vented area like a garage or one of those portable car storage tents, if a shop isnt readily available.

umm after you prime best bet would be wet sand if you want the car to look real nice it takes a little longer but it leaves you with a qualtiy finish. you want to get the sand paper at autozone they sell it by a packs and you just have to soak it in a bucket of warm water and soap thats how i prep cars cause the soap will clean and keep the surface clean and would gouge the primer. 500 grit would be your best bet itll cut down fast and wont clog as fast either. if you want better visual aid im sure youtube will have a few videos on car prepping.

thats what i can think of for now but ill deff keep you posted if i keep finding anything new, and good luck on the painting, wanna see how shell look with a fresh coat of paint on it. again sorry for the crappy expliantion YOUTUBE has videos thatll expalin what i mean anyways a few more links that might help

How to Prep and Paint a Car | eHow.com

Car Paint Steps, Tips, and Tricks: Automotive Paint, Auto Paint, Car Paint

hey man thanks a lot
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Re: Painting the Lude... ::stumped:: =/

If you dont want to buy a whole spray setup (compressor, gun, moister filter...etc)
you can use Spray cans by Duplicolor. They may even have your exact OEM color, or you can go with a different color of course. If you sand down to the metal, make sure that your first coat is with self etching primer, this will help prevent rust.
Ive used duplicolor on many parts on my car and its hard to tell what is the stock paint and what is duplicolor paint.
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If you dont want to buy a whole spray setup (compressor, gun, moister filter...etc)
you can use Spray cans by Duplicolor. They may even have your exact OEM color, or you can go with a different color of course. If you sand down to the metal, make sure that your first coat is with self etching primer, this will help prevent rust.
Ive used duplicolor on many parts on my car and its hard to tell what is the stock paint and what is duplicolor paint.
thats exactly the answer i was lookin for lol... i looked into self etching. do i use self etching then a primer sealer?
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Yeah, use a different color "filler primer" after the self etching primer. It is not necessary to use a primer sealer. If you plan on wetsanding your final coat of primer, having the different color will tell you when you've gone to low and have reached the etching primer. Reapply filler primer if you go to low.
For a high quality paint job, it is recommended to wetsand the final coat of primer with 800 grit. After that start with your color. After your last coat of color has dried, wetsand with 1000 grit. After that start with your clear coat. After your last coat of clear wetsand from 800 to 1000 to 1500 to 2000, making sure the surface is smooth (no small dots visible)
then compound with a DA, clean surface, then polish, clean surface, wax

where are you at on your painting project?

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Im repainting my teg pearl white, My grandfather owns a body shop and ive been around it all 22 years of my life, really sanding to bare metal is only needed if u are using bondoe, since u r use the best "sealer primer it will be a 4.2.1. formula. it will bond to the bare metal the best. as far as the rest of yur car no need to sand that far down just use like 500 grit sand paper over everything thing else that isant jammed like talkin bout. If you do run across dents use filling puddy not bondoe. and always use a block to sand with not ur hands because it can warp the metal from heat and tension. Never cross up ur sanding... This is not Nppl lol. Straight back and forth motion when sanding and once the bondoe or puddy is feather edged and smooth primer the rest of the car, then water sand that with 1200 grit paper and make it smoother and bet.. its ready for a nice base clear.



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Wilsons Body Shop. Msg if you would even be intrested in a legit base clear quote.

;p and dont use a Air sander/D,A, cause it just make u lose ur edge.

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