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Old 03-15-2011, 02:03 AM
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tranny or not?

ok 1st off i was running a 8lb flywheel with a oem replacement clutch..so ok it had got to where i could not drive the car with out the RPM's racing to 7000 and had no power even if i was drive in 5th gear and gave it just a lil' gas just to pick up speed..

will started thinking it was the clutch so i went to replace it and saw this.



ok i went and replaced the flywheel and put a stage2 clutch and every thing in it and now the RPM's are still jumping to 7000 but has some power on take off. "but not alot".but now you can smell the clutch..

should i just replace the tranny or what y'all think?
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Old 03-15-2011, 10:08 AM
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Re: tranny or not?

are you breaking in the clutch properly?>??
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Re: tranny or not?

I have a h23 5 speed manual tranny for sale. If you decide to buy one. Im in Dallas, TX. PM me if that is the route you decide to go.
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Re: tranny or not?

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are you breaking in the clutch properly?>??
yeah it doesn't even have 50mi. on it and i don't run my car hard..and the flywheel in the pic i had for 6months so it got replaced with a new one.but the jumping RMP's to 7k still happens with the new clutch and fly..

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I have a h23 5 speed manual tranny for sale. If you decide to buy one. Im in Dallas, TX. PM me if that is the route you decide to go.
kool. but i'm going one from a friend.but thanks
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yeah it doesn't even have 50mi. on it and i don't run my car hard..and the flywheel in the pic i had for 6months so it got replaced with a new one.but the jumping RMP's to 7k still happens with the new clutch and fly..


kool. but i'm going one from a friend.but thanks

sounds like you dunno how to properly break in a new clutch.

you need to drive like a GRANDMA for 500-1000 miles to properly break in the clutch. that means absolutely NO launching, feathering, brake-torquing, taking it above 5-6K, whatever reckless shiit you can think of. your clutch is still slipping to 7K, that's why your burning up your brand new clutch.
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sounds like you dunno how to properly break in a new clutch.

you need to drive like a GRANDMA for 500-1000 miles to properly break in the clutch. that means absolutely NO launching, feathering, brake-torquing, taking it above 5-6K, whatever reckless shiit you can think of. your clutch is still slipping to 7K, that's why your burning up your brand new clutch.
...x2. sounds like it might not be to long before he is changing it all again, if he dont take it easy.
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Re: tranny or not?

that don't sound too good it may be the tranny slipping.....
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sounds like you dunno how to properly break in a new clutch.

you need to drive like a GRANDMA for 500-1000 miles to properly break in the clutch. that means absolutely NO launching, feathering, brake-torquing, taking it above 5-6K, whatever reckless shiit you can think of. your clutch is still slipping to 7K, that's why your burning up your brand new clutch.
i know what the break in is. and i'm driving the car slow and i try to shift about 3k. no hard launching ether but the RMP's will rev to 7k with just a lil' gas like if i'm in Neutral cuse the car wont pick up.and this happen with the trans is warms up..
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Re: tranny or not?

Ok, I've been thinking about this. It wouldn't make since to smell clutch burning if it was in the tranny. When you installed the new components did you inspect the input shaft splines for burrs or ridges that the clutch disk could be catching on? Is it possible the slave cylinder has rust or crap in it not allowing it to fully disengage? I would suggest pulling the clutch cover and having a buddy work the clutch pedal and watch everything move. If you can side a .001 feeler guage between the clutch disk and flywheel with the clutch pushed in and let off the clutch to see if it holds it tight. Not sure if you can get a feeler guauge in or not I know a lot of pressure plates have a raised section where it would be possible. (I haven't had to replace mine yet.) Just suggestions. Not sure what else to do but this is where I would probably start.
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^^exactly what i was thinking. and just because you dont "properly" break in a clutch it wouldn't cause it to rev up to 7k. sounds like something got overlooked when you put everything back together. not doubting your mechanical skills, but it happens to the best of us. make sure the axles snapped back into the tranny. sounds like you might need a new tranny and possibly some axles too. more pics of the splines would help out.
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Re: tranny or not?

my axles are new.. i'm going to be pulling the motor back out this weekend so i can have pix then..but i'll be getting a trans this weekend too..and the revving to 7k is why i had replaced the clutch and flywheel thinking it would fix it..
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Re: tranny or not?

^ That's why I suggested something keeping the pressure plate from pushing the clutch tight against the flywheel. If there was something like that going on it would explain why changing the clutch and flywheel didn't solve the problems. I suscribe to the thread anxios to see what you find. Keep us posted.
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here are so pix of the clutch,flywheel.and trans. the fly and plate do have burn marks from the clutch burning





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Re: tranny or not?

Doesn't look like you have a tranny poblem to me. I would think if it was it would just bog the engine down and make it stall not slip the clutch. Did the clutch disck slide on the input shaft splines good. THe picture is a little blurry but they look good. Was your new flywheel the correct thickness? If it was too thin maybe set up isn't within the tolerable limits out lined in the service manual. Just brainstorming.
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yeah the clutch sides fine on the splines..
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Re: tranny or not?

there has to be something keeping it from or not letting it engage the flywheel fully. Bent clutch fork? Still wonder about the slve cylinder hanging up not fully travelling back. Can't say I remember ever seeing it, again I'm just trying to think of possible causes would help if I could get my hands on it. LOL. Some thing it just helps to have a " hands on" look at. I like odd ball stuff like this.
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My buddy had a similar issue in his soobie . . . Problem was a bent fork
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Re: tranny or not?

kool thanx peeps.i'm getting a trans tomorrow from a friend. and be going to put it back togther and see what happens..i know the trans is good that he has cuz it only got pull out for the h22 swap.so nothing should be bent.so all i can do is pray it helps..lol
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