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Old 02-14-2011, 03:04 PM
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Apexi N! turbo muffler - quick pic

This thing is huge. o_o It'll clear the ground and everything alright, but still. My father's first response was "yea you're getting pulled over." TV remote to compare size.
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It's not going on a turbo car, but it will match up to the 3in exhaust. I guess 3in piping makes it "turbo" piping.
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can i have it? ill take the remote too thanks lol
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Hmm will I need a flex pipe? For a new exhaust system? No cat, single resonator.
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one of the worst sounding mufflers/exhausts in my opinion.
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i agree with your dad...lol you took the folgers sticker off right? ha just kiddin...kinda
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one of the worst sounding mufflers/exhausts in my opinion.
WUT!?! it sounds good on turbo cars
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Re: Apexi N! turbo muffler - quick pic

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WUT!?! it sounds good on turbo cars

never heard it on a turbo'd honda, but on an all-motor honda it sounds like teh stereotypical buzzing/loud fart-can/raspy annoying exhausts that everyone makes fun of.
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Re: Apexi N! turbo muffler - quick pic

Haters gonna` hate. I'm still young, I want that sound, and eventually when I get tired of it I'll go with a ws2 or something. This is my first import so I'll learn from experience what was a good idea and what wasn't. My buddy has a spoon n1 and I love it, you're looking at 500+ dollars for a spoon muffler so I picked apexi, not exactly the same, but within the scope.


I'll be adding more pictures soon, just ordered the 3in piping, aem v2 intake, 3in resonator, brand new iacv (tired of junkyard one's failing in a week). Pushing for this to all get done soon. -.-; Lots of money.
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That exhaust is going to be crazy loud. I want to hear it though.
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never heard it on a turbo'd honda, but on an all-motor honda it sounds like teh stereotypical buzzing/loud fart-can/raspy annoying exhausts that everyone makes fun of.
qnzlude87(turbo 5th gen that looks like bustr's) or w/e the fuk his name is has one
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Re: Apexi N! turbo muffler - quick pic

I personally can't stand my fart cannon, but whatever floats your boat man! I'm looking at getting a full 3" exhaust this spring. What all went into it and how much did it run you? Mind flamers, I'm not getting it to be loud and obnoxious, I'm getting it because my exhaust is falling off and I might as well get a tiny bit of performance gain :D
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I want to say it's not going to be a "fart cannon" really. Given, its an apexi n1, but it's not going onto a 2.36 (or w/e) stock exhaust. Bigger the diameter, deeper the sound, it will be LOUD, and if it's too loud I'll add a second resonator, and it'll have a little rice to it, but not so much the sterotypical'ness, they're running a cherry bomb on stock, not custom exhaust. Something along those lines. I know what everyone's talking about, but youtube only does so much justice. I'll experience it myself, and if I don't like it, I'll simply cut it off and get something else.

As for my setup, I didn't go the cheap route, I went with the best I could.

Hytech replica headers (true 2.5in collector) - $450 shipped
Mandral Exhaust Systems 3in pipe - $200
3in resonator - $70
Apexi n1 muffer - $200
Labor to properly weld it in - $250

Research has shown that the h22a n/a setup, even completely stock, likes to have a 2.5in collector for back pressure, modifying the collector to 3in will give you a drop in low-mind torque, not something I want. After the collector, however, the rest becomes scavenging, meaning you want the least amount of obstruction as possible, such as mandrel 3in. I've seen a few set-up's that have a pipe coming right out of the collector, it sounds like **** mind you, but performance was performance.

You're looking at 1100 - 1200 for a whole new exhaust. Closer to 1500 if you're going duel resonators and a cat for the quiet approach. As for me, I want them to hear me comin`. Whats the point of having a rebuilt 90's street monster without turning some attention (me being 19 might have something to do with it). ;)

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It appears as though you have done some homework. May wanna get some terminology correct though. Now, this isn't my MOST knowledgeable field so long run I'm probably putting my foot in my mouth lol but here it goes.

Scavenging is what you are accomplishing with "back pressure". That is desired. The term back pressure is for uneducated back yard mechanics. There is 0 force pushing back your exhaust, the smaller diameter tubing is restricting the velocity of the exhaust gasses keeping a proper temp in/near the head/header for a more efficient burn of fuel. Once you have done your part at the collector then yes, you want to expel the gases with as little resistance as possible.
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I'm always learning haha. I wanted to make sure I wasn't losing torque with a 3in exhaust. I was going to modify the collector originally to 3in to match the pipe, but after enough picking around I found a thread where one guy swore to keep the collector 2.5. Thats where 'back pressure' started to make sense, people kept saying you need it you need it, but no one really specified where to draw the line. Also, all the dyno's (to show gain with 3in pipe) are with DC headers, or stock headers, so you're talking 2.5 or less in some case's in terms of collectors. I didn't want to be the one to take the chance and actually go over that, and have a slug till 5k rpm. -.-;

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Back pressure isn't a backyard mechanic term man! I'm getting my degree in mechanical engineering and we've discussed it in fluid dynamics. It's not directly meant towards cars, but the flow of the exhaust gasses (a fluid).

Check it:

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No offense meant at all, just adding my .02

EDIT: I have a DC ceramic header I have yet to install. So I would be able to 3" off of it? I believe it's 2.5". I is car newb in that respect!
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Back pressure isn't a backyard mechanic term man! I'm getting my degree in mechanical engineering and we've discussed it in fluid dynamics. It's not directly meant towards cars, but the flow of the exhaust gasses (a fluid).

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No offense meant at all, just adding my .02

EDIT: I have a DC ceramic header I have yet to install. So I would be able to 3" off of it? I believe it's 2.5". I is car newb in that respect!
Sure, but it might take a little bit of fabrication. All the dyno's I've seen to show the gain were using DC headers, or some other form of 2.5in collectors. If you've got welding skills I'm sure you can make a small transition piece, or go to an exhaust shop, thats what I'm doing.
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Sure, but it might take a little bit of fabrication. All the dyno's I've seen to show the gain were using DC headers, or some other form of 2.5in collectors. If you've got welding skills I'm sure you can make a small transition piece, or go to an exhaust shop, thats what I'm doing.
Welding skills = nada. It's odd, I've used practically every tool imaginable, and I've never welded anything, lol. I was just going to go to a muffler shop and have an adapter-type thing put on and 3" back from there (mandrel bent). I'm trying to go quiet though, so probably 2 long resonators and a ws2 or something?
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Back pressure isn't a backyard mechanic term man! I'm getting my degree in mechanical engineering and we've discussed it in fluid dynamics. It's not directly meant towards cars, but the flow of the exhaust gasses (a fluid).

Check it:

Back pressure - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No offense meant at all, just adding my .02

EDIT: I have a DC ceramic header I have yet to install. So I would be able to 3" off of it? I believe it's 2.5". I is car newb in that respect!

Wikipedia also turns up a page for "Snookie"

I'm not being defensive either. Wiki is a crock at best as far as I'm concerned. The term "back pressure" has become far too used. It may be used by an old school professor or something but you won't find it as an accepted term in a textbook.

Take your header to a shop. Say, I need a 3" flange on this and make sure they know to keep it the same length. If you bring it in before it is on the car it will be a very inexpensive job.
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Here is a vibrant 3" exhaust. I wish there were more clips. Seems subtle but aggressive. Kinda what I would want if I were to change exhaust.

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Wikipedia also turns up a page for "Snookie"

I'm not being defensive either. Wiki is a crock at best as far as I'm concerned. The term "back pressure" has become far too used. It may be used by an old school professor or something but you won't find it as an accepted term in a textbook.

Take your header to a shop. Say, I need a 3" flange on this and make sure they know to keep it the same length. If you bring it in before it is on the car it will be a very inexpensive job.
I agree. Then again, just about every term is far too used nowadays, lol. Most words have lost their intensity or meaning just because people use them so often to describe everything (i.e. "epic"). Back pressure is a real concept though, but we call it resistance to flow in the edjewmakated world . Also, so if I wanted an entire new exhaust, I would get a flange for my header, 3" flex pipe, 3" tubing as needed, a resonator, and finally a muffler? I live in Ohio, so no emissions here.

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Here is a vibrant 3" exhaust. I wish there were more clips. Seems subtle but aggressive. Kinda what I would want if I were to change exhaust.

Where would you, or anyone, suggest getting these parts for an exhaust? I'm trying to save every dollar I can.
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I believe I read KTeller has kits fitted for cars of mandrel bent tubing as a kit that you have welded together. Don't know of price or anything.
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Re: Apexi N! turbo muffler - quick pic

KTeller has a 3in pipe kit, as well as mandrelexhaustsystems, both ebay based. I went to the second seller, was a little bit cheaper, and they had an actual picture of the product, not a reference picture, no biggie though.

That vibrant exhaust is probably a vibrant muffler, the exhaust itself is most likely just universal tubing and what-not. The only name brand stuff you want in an exhaust is the header and muffler, the rest is just s bunch of pipe lol.

You'll want a header, the piping ($200 on each seller), a resonator (maybe 2), a muffler (vibrant, OBX, or apexi ws2 are all nice quiet-ish exhausts, youtube). The muffler shop will know what to do with the rest, as in make the flange and weld it together. I'm not sure about the flex pipe, I'm going to bring all my stuff down to the guy and let him decide, wouldn't want to spend 70 more dollars for nothing.

The kit is 3 main tubes, all the bends are there, but for it to fit properly there's a little bit of cutting to size and welding involved.
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