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Old 02-05-2011, 07:43 PM
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so i was informed (i didnt think to look) that my motor is an h22a1, great im thrilled, however the head is a h23a1.. what the hell.. so its not running vtec for obvious reasons but now i am having a problem with the leaking oil. could it be because the head is an h23a1 head rather than the h22a1?? the guy who had it before me didnt know about cars and just gave it to someone to fix, and obviously they didnt do it right because they said they fixed/replaced the radiator fans , water pump, oil pump, head, spark plug s and wires and numerous other things as was stated by them exactly. so if the head was fixed and or replaced why am i have such a bad oil leak with smoke coming out the exhaust?

please someone give me some insight ive never had to deal with a combo engine for lack of better words..
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Re: stumped...

Well that is completely backwards haha.... But anyways, where is the oil coming from?
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haha i thought so too! i was like uhhh hmm? idk where its coming from, it was steady losing oil, and my husband had to take it to work and it was still blowin smoke (only out the exhaust) he came home i let it sit over night i dip sticked it, no coolant in the oil but.. there was like no oil in it. so i asked my husband when he woke up and he said the smoke stoped when he was on his way home. and my guess is thats when it ran out. but i cant find a visual leak anywhere im lost at where to start! thats why i thought maybe it was because the heads are wrong in that case ill just buy the right head and replace it ugh!

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Re: stumped...

I have an H22 head with everything you would need to get it running right sitting in my garage that I'm willing to sell. I can't guarantee it would fix your oil leak problem though since you don't know where it's coming from. Anyways, if you're interested let me know.
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Re: stumped...

how much are you looking for and where are you located? shippings a b***h, do you think that could be the problem is the idiot who swapped out heads and not the whole motor? and its auto idk if it matters for the head i dont think it does tho
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nvm my hubby doesnt know even how to relay info. its all h22 >.< sometimes i wonder lol. this leak is killing me though since i cant drive it i dont want it to screw up my entire engine. could it be the oring? should i try puting one of those dyes or something in it to see where its leaking from or to a oc check to see if its the head gasket?
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Re: stumped...

I've got a 98 prelude that is leaking oil really bad, and mine is coming from the front main seal, it may look like its coming from the oil pan but if it's coming from above that there's a good chance its a main seal. If it is definitely coming from between the head and the block then you have a blown head gasket or at least a leaking one, especially since you said it's burning oil too. Get your compression checked, that should tell you something about the condition of the head gasket.
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ok thats what i was gunna do. i gotta wait till monday when my other car is avaible for my to run to autozone. there isnt any coolant in the lack there of oil though, so thats a good sign but ugh i just wanna do an engine swap haha
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yeah that is a good sign, hopefully its not a blown gasket, just sounds like it could be, another thing is it could possibly have a small crack in block. Cam seals can also go bad and leak oil everywhere too, and depending on which side of the cam it was leaking it could mess up your distributor or your timing belt over time. there's just so many things that it could be when it comes to an oil leak.
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Re: stumped...

i know their so vauge. i cant see where its leaking from is the main problem ive looked. the only thing i see is the smoke from the exhaust and what may be residue on the left hand side right under the head. i dont know though since i got it litterally 2days ago its hard for me to tell, the person before me gave it to a shop to redo so i dont know what they did and didnt replace except the main things. but the one thing he said is they fixed the head.. so i dont know!
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nvm my hubby doesnt know even how to relay info. its all h22 >.< sometimes i wonder lol.
he missed the fact that the valve cover has DOHC VTEC printed in big letters?

alright back to topic...
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Re: stumped...

try and take some pictures of where the oil is dripping from underneath the car that way we can try and rule out some areas. if it is leaking obnoxiously the main seals that cause that would be the oil cooler o-ring or the front balance shaft seal. but find an oil puddle from under the car take a pic and post it on here we will help you out the best we can.
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Re: stumped...


hard to see but thats the ONLY trace of oil i can find theres no puddles or anything just the smoke


but its in that general area. idk im stumped..
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sorry those came out way bigger than i thought they would
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Re: stumped...

Could be the cam seal.....just a guess cause its hard to tell from tha pics. but if its leaking from tha head onto tha trans its a good guess thats atleast 1 of ur oil problems. if it is that dont replace with the OE, replace with golden eagle cam seal.
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Re: stumped...

If you went through that much oil and don't have a huge puddle then you are probably burning a bunch (hence the smoke) and need to replace your piston rings and your cam seals.

Look at the intake piping the breather tube and if it has a lot of oil in it then you are getting blow by from your piston rings and that makes excessive crank pressure and you will find a bunch of oil in there, that's also how it eats some of the oil. Also do a compression test and then a compression test with pouring oil in the cylinders. My rings went and because I burned so much oil the head needs a valve job also. Have fun replacing your rings is not fun or easy :P I am in the process.
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Re: stumped...

ugh great, i know the pics arnt good, it was hard to get my camera in to really show where it was im about to look in the intake and see what I can find. the guy who i bought it from (who told his mechanic to replace it all) is coming to pic it up tomorrow and bring it to his shop.. so im thinking i might be in luck and they might pay for it since its been less than a week and hes a family friend.. im praying! cuz if not me and my husbands friend tim and my dad are gunna have a ton of work ahead of us.. yuck
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Re: stumped...

could the head bolts not be tight all the way?? tht would be my guess
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if that guess was right id be the happiest lady in the world lol!!
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could the head bolts not be tight all the way?? tht would be my guess
Unlikely -- if the head bolts aren't torqued down properly, there'd be far more leaking out. I couldn't see much in the pictures, but if it's from that high, the valve (cam) cover gasket could be leaking -- that's pretty easy to replace. Strange for that kind of volume just from the valve cover, though. Cam plugs?
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thinkin cam plugs or uneven tightend VC but yeah get a compression test done if your blowin tons of smoke
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so good news.. its my pcv valve. BAH awesomeness talk about a cheap fix. this lady right here is thrilled. valves are good comp is good. so leave me more money to get a new intake. YESSS
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