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cooling water on the engine block after motor swap - WTF- SEE THE PICTURES

Hi guys,

Got my engine swapped just recently.
I recognized cooling water on the engine block.
My mechanic could not tell me where it comes from.

The engine is NOT turning hot yet and the display is showing the cooling temperature acquired.

Anybody made the same experiences
Any ideas from where the cooling water could appear there?!

Thank you so much
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Re: cooling water on the engine block after motor swap - WTF- SEE THE PICTURES

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Re: cooling water on the engine block after motor swap - WTF- SEE THE PICTURES

I believe a leakdown test would help you
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Re: cooling water on the engine block after motor swap - WTF- SEE THE PICTURES

i have the same thing, never figured out where it's coming from though. i don't seem to be losing much if any coolant though, how about with yours? maybe try wiping off the residue then let the car idle while watching the area. open the throttle too while you're there and see if you can pinpoint the leak...i'll try that tomorrow myself
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Re: cooling water on the engine block after motor swap - WTF- SEE THE PICTURES

ok, more info is needed ,but it seems that you need to check the back of engine next to the head water blackpipe inlet that connects to oil cooler,and the water pump,it has rubber o rings that could be leaking ,also like some one said do leak down test ,also check freez out plugs.
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Re: cooling water on the engine block after motor swap - WTF- SEE THE PICTURES

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i have the same thing, never figured out where it's coming from though. i don't seem to be losing much if any coolant though, how about with yours? maybe try wiping off the residue then let the car idle while watching the area. open the throttle too while you're there and see if you can pinpoint the leak...i'll try that tomorrow myself
exactly! its not loosing much coolant! We cleaned the spot first and after coming back from a short ride it was still clean. It apperead after 2 days again on the exact same spots!

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ok, more info is needed ,but it seems that you need to check the back of engine next to the head water blackpipe inlet that connects to oil cooler,and the water pump,it has rubber o rings that could be leaking ,also like some one said do leak down test ,also check freez out plugs.
Thanks John!
Will check that out with the mechanic beginning next week.
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Re: cooling water on the engine block after motor swap - WTF- SEE THE PICTURES

Lilbluelude's lesson of the day:

This folks is a cracked block. The block has cracked along the exterior section causing coolant to weep out of the front of the block. Its not very common, but it can be a serious issue. An xray of the block will likely show the crack is atleast 12" long spanning the front side of the block.

Can it be fixed? Yes. It can easily be welded around the crack area and a little beyond to prevent further propagation of the crack. The super downside is that welding it requires you break down the block for safety. Ive seen blocks welded with the crank, rods, and pistons in place. But, Ive also seen people try it and end up welding alot more than the crack(ie the gaps between the pistons to wall filled in and the clearance gaps on bearings) and having to toss the entire motor.

If you are stuck with the motor as is.. Can you drive on it? Yes. Just watch the coolant levels and check the affected area frequently to make sure its not getting worse. But, I would not advise trying to race or boost this motor without fixing it. Anything that produces large amounts of heat is going to cause the block to expand and further expand the crack. Nitrous, track days, hard driving even...

I wish I had a video of the last block I saw cracked. It cracked bad few years ago while we were at an event racing. I have no idea how long the block had a hairline fracture in it, but it eventually cracked and started pissing coolant out the front. At idle you couldnt tell anything was wrong visually, but as soon as it went down the track the buildup of heat pressurized the system and would cause the coolant to spray out the front in a small stream reminiscent of a cheap water gun.
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Re: cooling water on the engine block after motor swap - WTF- SEE THE PICTURES

^^^ cool, not what we wanted to hear but good info. I track my car monthly so i'll have to keep an eye on this issue and see how long i can run the block. For the op, hope your fresh swap isn't a loss...

OP- maybe leak down test your block and find out where the crack is at
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Re: cooling water on the engine block after motor swap - WTF- SEE THE PICTURES

lilbluelude is right on the money. i have had older h22 and h23 motors start to weep coolant just under the two huge allen bolt plugs on the front face of the motor. can be rewelded or jb welded. problem is a serious teardown... NO COOLANT CAN BE PRESENT when repairing this otherwise it will make it worse. aluminum tig weld is best.
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Re: cooling water on the engine block after motor swap - WTF- SEE THE PICTURES

Hey guys.

We have seald the block (SEE THE PICTURE). I hope it will stop the leaking. Otherwise I will go with another new old block.

Thanks for your input!
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how did you seal it?
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Re: cooling water on the engine block after motor swap - WTF- SEE THE PICTURES

JB weld. lol.

Isn't there a guy on here or HT running an H23 that used JB weld to fill a deep scratch in his cylinder wall? Off topic, I know.
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