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JDM F20B SiR-T DOHC VTEC

Hey all, I havent been on this site for awhile. Im back now and am doing a engine swap! I have a 92 prelude S. I swapped a 92 f22a6 in it about a year ago. Did the H23 upper plenum swap and knife cut the throttle plate. cold air intake, and a couple of other mods that I cant recall right now? I just purchased a 97-01? F20B DOHC VTEC SiR-T with LSD manual tranny. It should come in a week! I read on a few threads here that there are a couple of people that have done this swap. Where would be a good site to purchase a timing belt kit? I heard you can use the H22 belt and H23 manual tensioner? But the H22 belt has one less tooth. So im searching for the F20b belt. Any help on the swap in general would be appreciated! I will post pics when it comes!
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Im having to do a auto to manual swap.So I went to pullapart today and got manual cluster, shifter linkage and cables, gas pedal, brake pedal, clutch pedal and master clutch cylinder, the hard line and soft line to tranny. All for $72 bucks! been looking for this stuff for like a year or two. Every time I would go to p@p they would be gone. Called today they had two out there! There was a 93 and 94. Both had all the parts I needed! And sitting right next to each other! I will have to get a clutch kit for my new set up. Better do it while its out of the car. Not sure which kit I should get but from what I hear I can use H22 parts for my F20B BlueTop so will have to match stuff up to make sure?

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Re: JDM F20B SiR-T DOHC VTEC

Dude I'm running the f20b in my 4th gen, if you need any help with it get at me, I did months of research on the swap and know exactly what you will need. If your planning on keeping your powersteering you might wanna keep your crank pulley off the other engine. I could use the single belt pulley off the f20b if you wanna get rid of it, I plan on deleting my powersteering soon and need 1, sold mine to 1BadBB6 when I got my engine in. I orfered mine from jdmtigerjapanese.com and haven't had any problems. There's some things your gunna need to change over to get it to work properly.
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Re: JDM F20B SiR-T DOHC VTEC

NICE! NICE! NICE! finally a fello 4G Prelude F20Ber! So many questions Ive got for you! I have been doing alot of research also. I think im going to stay with the obd2b system for now. I wount have the money to go with a obd1 and chipd and tuned ecu. I got the whole swap, engine, harness,ecu, lsd tranny. So for now its obd2b. Which way did you go with your swap obd1 or 2b? Do you have the T2T4 lsd tranny? What kind of header did you get? Did you have to use a different motor or tranny mount? I hear you can use the H22 timing belt. It is 1 tooth shorter, so they say its a tight fit. The F20 is One tooth larger so fits a little easier. Did you use the cv shafts from your prelude? I will have more questions once the engine gets here! I got my swap from Jspecauto. The most important question is, How do you like the engine? is it a blast! I cant wait to get mine going man! Sorry for all the questions lol. But i finally have someone that has done a swap like im gonna do after looking for like 3 weeks.
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Re: JDM F20B SiR-T DOHC VTEC

I kept obd1 bc I just got the engine, kept my h23 tranny and its pretty quick with those gear ratios, dnt be like I was and researching every night til I had headaches bro, its really not that complicated. All the mounts are the same, you can use the h22 timing belt as long as you use the h23 tensioner, and trust me 1 tooth might not seem like a lot but its tighter than a gnats ass, and a bitch to get on without timing gears moving. So in order to keep them from moving zip tie the sh!t out of them, or just buy the gear tool thing. Change the water pump while in the process, h22 water pump works fine. Use the top radiator hose part off ur current engine bc the f20! 1 is a lil different just makes it easier, powersteering pump bracket has a lip on the back of it where it bolts to the engine, grind it off. Any h22 header and down pipe will work. I have a hytech replica. Use your cv axles. The major thing is when it comes to the intake manifold, since the fuel line is on the other side of the engine obviously bc a the RHD car it came out of your gunna need a custom fuel line or a h22 intake manifold. Easiest thing to do is get the fuel line made. I can get you a steel braided 1 for about $50. Then you need to swap out the top of your intake maniflod plenum with your original engine one because of vacuum lines, so when u do this get h22 intake plenum gasket and h23 throttle body gasket. You said your gettin the wiring harnes with it so no need to change over injector plugs or switch out dizzys. Haha that pretty much covers it bro. And plus its after 3 in the morning here and my girl is like its time to go to sleep, "you can worry about your whore tomorrow" whore=my lude. Lol anything else let me know, and keep this updated.
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Re: JDM F20B SiR-T DOHC VTEC

Cool thanks for the info! For right now im going to stay obd2b bcuz of the ecu and wire harness coming with engine. When I have enough money saved up Im going back to obd1 and getn a ecu I can get tuned. I have another car to drive so I can take my time on this. I should be getn the engine sometime next week. So when it gets here and I start doing swap I will be hitn you up For specific info! Thanx for ur help so far man I really appreciate it! My girl gets a bit pissey when I get into a new swap! Lol

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Not a problem bro, I just dropped the trans out of mine yesterday, syncros crapped out on me. Thinking bout getting 1 from syncrhotechtransmissions.com with lsd, not really sure. Kinda will be my christmas present to myself if I do. Have you decided if your gunna keep the crank pully? I have anoth 4th that I'm gunna be doin a H23 vtec swap in this up coming spring. Its nice being 1 of the only 2 ppl in Georgia to have this engine in a lude. Well bro if u need anything else its easier to get in contact with me by txt, I usually dnt get on here til late at night, and I know how it feels to have questions and have no one to answer them. So if you need any more help hit me up 706-834-7935
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Sorry to hear about the trans problem. For now Im keeping all parts till I get done with swap and see how it runs. Im worried bout when I get my P/S on from the old engine if since its not electrical how my idle issue will be when i go to turn my steering wheel and it puts a load on my engine. Just wondering If my ecu from the f20B will correct this by idling up? Jspecauto says my engine should be here in washington on monday. They say since I ordered it around Thanksgiving there might be a delay. There right, seems to be one! lol
So you had a H23 in your Lude be for the F20B? When you wired in for vtec did you have to add a pressure switch for vtec? I hear the f20B doesnt come with pressure switch but there is a bolt in place of one? So you can add it. Thanks for the number I will be txtn you once I start the swap!
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Re: JDM F20B SiR-T DOHC VTEC

Mine idles just fine with P/S around 900-1000. Since the car had electrical P/S you know there's only 1 place on the crank pully for a belt right? So you'll need to use yours off your old engine. My car was prewired for vtec, I think all 4ths were after 93 or 94. I have a chipped p28 from phearable.net with knock sensor and oil pressue swith deleted. So my ecu doesn't look for 1. You will have to jump ecu pins other wise pin A4 and D6 are the ones that need to be jumped. I think cnt remember exactly. Or I guess you could add one and run wires for it. Just more work than needed. But u shouldn't have to worry about it since you have the cu for the engine, so theerefore it won't look for 1. Just run your wiring for vtec and your good to go.
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Cool thanx! Yeah b4 I start letn pieces go I just wanna make sure all is good on a swap thats all bud. So when I get a manual tensioner I get one from a usdm h23? what year? and when I get a water pump can i get one from usdm h22a? what year? been lookn through threads but dont see specifics. Yeah my Lude is a 92 s so it came with f22a1. I swapd in an a6 out of a 93 accord and wired in iab's. so I will wire in vtec, knock sensor, ect.

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Im having to do a auto to manual swap.So I went to pullapart today and got manual cluster, shifter linkage and cables, gas pedal, brake pedal, clutch pedal and master clutch cylinder, the hard line and soft line to tranny. All for $72 bucks! been looking for this stuff for like a year or two. Every time I would go to p@p they would be gone. Called today they had two out there! There was a 93 and 94. Both had all the parts I needed! And sitting right next to each other! I will have to get a clutch kit for my new set up. Better do it while its out of the car. Not sure which kit I should get but from what I hear I can use H22 parts for my F20B BlueTop so will have to match stuff up to make sure?
if i did paypal, could you get me those parts ? lol.......
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Lol, parts already gone! went back a day later to get parts for friend and parts gone! sorry dude!
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oh , thanks tho
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I found timingbelt and waterpump info! Waterpump part#19200-P13-003 timingbelt part # 14400-P13-004
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thanks , but i need more than that !!
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Re: JDM F20B SiR-T DOHC VTEC

H23 tensioner 92-96 and H22 timing belt any year from 93-01 and same for the water pump H22 93-01 and you should be good. The timing belt is gunna be a bitch to get on trust me. Websites like GReddy has the F20b timing belt for like $100.
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So my update! I recieved my F20B, it had a M2A4 manual tranny bolted to it! I thought I was getn ripped off till I read the web page on jspecauto. It says 5 speed hydrolic tranny not LSD, My bad. So I had to send a few parts back like TB, valvecover,map sensor,TPS.(Those Parts were either broke or damaged somewhat.) I emailed jspecauto about damaged parts and they said they would pay for shipping both ways and get me new parts. Oh and my engine harness was cut at firewall. They have shipped me new parts and full uncut engine harness. Should be getn them by the 24th. I didnt have to ship back engine harness either I get to keep it plus getn a new one!

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1. H22 timing belt
2. H22 balance shaft belt
3. H23 manual tensioner swap
4. F22a4 crankshaft pulley

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H22 drivers side engine mount
H22 valvecover gasket kit
H23 oil pan gasket
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O2 sensors, think H22 will work? not sure if the O2 for my F22a6 will work for my F20B? and since its obd2b think I need one more for after cat?
Thinking stayn with obd1 would be easier? but havent decided which way Im going? if I go obd1 then 1 O2 sensor and Pharable P28 then getn street tune? Just not sure yet going to do more research on it before I decide. Oh since I have the M2A4 tranny its from a JDM H22 right? the reason I ask is bcuz I got the intermediate halfshaft on the drivers side that came with the swap. So I can get a usdm H22 halfshaft to fit on the end of that right?

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Good news, the axles should be fine or just use the 1 you already have, any pictures of the engine?
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I will get some pics up soon hopefully. Just as my engine was delivered work had picked up. Been wrkn for 2 weeks straight! Lol always happens like that. Oh what oil pan gasket fits on my F20B ? I hear H23 but not confirmed.
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I would say the h23 would work, not sure. I didn't change mine when I did te swap. If it doesn't look like it leaks I wouldn't bother with it. I would check part numbers between the h22 and h23 and see if they're the same and if so then your good.
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Here are some updates, Purchased H22A4 IM from ebay for $175. Had all parts include, sensors, TB, inj, fuel rail, egr, iacv, fiv. Wrinkle painted valve cover and some other parts. I will try and load some pics up. Purchased a h23 drivers side engine mount and powersteering pump bracket from ebay. They dont make a VHT Blue wrinkle paint so I went with Black. Will most likely get a P72 ecu so I can retain iab's from pherable $250. Will be getting a megan header for 97 H22 VTec lude. Contacted A tuner from around Universty Place here in Washington about the Map setup for my F20B. Waiting to hear back from him on which way to go?
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Re: JDM F20B SiR-T DOHC VTEC

will 95 honda prelude stock cv axle mount up to a jdm f20b sir t dohc vtec engine
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which tranny is being used?
if both cars have ABS, i'm gonna gander a guess and say it will work, cuz i'm pretty sure the same axles can be used between f22 and h22, you just gotta worry about ABS
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But you need that scoop on the hood. Is it true that they're big enough to fit your lunch box and all your camera gear in it?
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