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Phearable chip

I was looking into getting a chipped ecu, but I have a few questions first.

1.) Using Phearable.net, do I have to ship my ecu in, or do they ship me one that's already chipped with a basemap for my car?

2.) I have a 95 Si, so is this the unit I want:
http://www.phearable.net/shoppingcar...vtec-p-32.html

3.) I'm relatively stock at the moment (except I/H/E), so will I see anything noticeable?

4.) Is this a plug and play situation, whereas I just unplug my stock ecu and plug this baby in? (Assuming they send me a pre-chipped ecu, if not, please disregard).

5.) I'm just past 160,000 miles, will this put more strain on my engine?

Excuse my noobieness, but everyone has to start somewhere
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Re: Phearable chip

1. Your ECU isn't supported by any tuning software so you'll need to just get the chipped and basemap'd ECU from phearable.

2. Yes

3. slight.

4. yes

5. slight.
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Awesome, thanks man. I guess I'll be ordering this tomorrow then, lol.
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In filling out the information required, I found myself stupified, lol. I always second guess myself, so please confirm my thoughts here Sorry for being a noob

2 step launch control point: 3500? Sound good for maximum efficiency on a stock h23?

Add A Conversion Harness: None. I'm already OBDI

Cel shiftlight rpm point: Leave blank. No shiftlight or aftermarket tach

Engine Details: I'm completely lost here. Basically just stock exclusing some eBay SRI and fart cannon. Any help?

Engine Model & Year: 1995 H23a1.

Injector Size: Stock?

Map Sensor: Stock.

Reference: Preludezone.com, the best damn site in the world!

Rpm revlimit: No clue.. Probably around 7 ish? I don't redline my engine anyways.

Vehicle Year/Make/Model: 1995 Honda Prelude Si

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Final question: I can drive on this just like a stock ecu, correct? As in, I don't have to do anything special or get it tuned or anything, right?

Extremely sorry for so many questions.
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Re: Phearable chip

In filling out the information required, I found myself stupified, lol. I always second guess myself, so please confirm my thoughts here Sorry for being a noob

2 step launch control point: 3500? Sound good for maximum efficiency on a stock h23? yea thats fine, decent for the street, if you have slicks then go higher.

Add A Conversion Harness: None. I'm already OBDI Correct you dont need one.

Cel shiftlight rpm point: Leave blank. No shiftlight or aftermarket tachlet them pick, but i think its something like 6400ish

Engine Details: I'm completely lost here. Basically just stock exclusing some eBay SRI and fart cannon. Any help?list whatever engine mods you have

Engine Model & Year: 1995 H23a1.yes

Injector Size: Stock?yes, stock

Map Sensor: Stock.yes stock

Reference: Preludezone.com, the best damn site in the world!

Rpm revlimit: No clue.. Probably around 7 ish? I don't redline my engine anyways. a little higher than your factory redline and CEL shift point

Vehicle Year/Make/Model: 1995 Honda Prelude Si

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Final question: I can drive on this just like a stock ecu, correct? As in, I don't have to do anything special or get it tuned or anything, right? yea youll be fine driving it without a tune. if anything just ask them to not richen up the fuel map so much
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Re: Phearable chip

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In filling out the information required, I found myself stupified, lol. I always second guess myself, so please confirm my thoughts here Sorry for being a noob

2 step launch control point: 3500? Sound good for maximum efficiency on a stock h23? yea thats fine, decent for the street, if you have slicks then go higher.

Add A Conversion Harness: None. I'm already OBDI Correct you dont need one.

Cel shiftlight rpm point: Leave blank. No shiftlight or aftermarket tachlet them pick, but i think its something like 6400ish

Engine Details: I'm completely lost here. Basically just stock exclusing some eBay SRI and fart cannon. Any help?list whatever engine mods you have

Engine Model & Year: 1995 H23a1.yes

Injector Size: Stock?yes, stock

Map Sensor: Stock.yes stock

Reference: Preludezone.com, the best damn site in the world!

Rpm revlimit: No clue.. Probably around 7 ish? I don't redline my engine anyways. a little higher than your factory redline and CEL shift point

Vehicle Year/Make/Model: 1995 Honda Prelude Si

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Final question: I can drive on this just like a stock ecu, correct? As in, I don't have to do anything special or get it tuned or anything, right? yea youll be fine driving it without a tune. if anything just ask them to not richen up the fuel map so much
Thanks again man, you're such a great help.

So just list "Yes" in the shiftlight blank? I don't see the point if I don't have anything that's going to light up, but I will anyways.

Also, I will just put 7000 as the revlimiter because it's higher than the 6500 redline and the (assumed) 6400 shiftlight.

How do I ask them not to richen up the fuel map as much? I don't see an area for comments and such? Maybe in engine details?

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Re: Phearable chip

Your CEL light on your dash will blink, that'll be your shift light.
yea your can just put it in the engine details sections
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Re: Phearable chip

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Your CEL light on your dash will blink, that'll be your shift light.
yea your can just put it in the engine details sections
Oh, that's awesome, lol.

Any technical way I should ask them or just literally say, "Please do not richen my fuel map too much as I am not getting this old engine tuned."

The best way I could think of, being tuning retarded and such.
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I would personally go with a p72 (about $220) and s3000 hondata chip ($500). Little pricey, but then you can tune it yourself, or go to an actual shop and get it done.

I'm going to buy a little netbook and station it in my car for my ecu, you can change it whenever, and instantly. Wither I want acceleration, top end, fuel economy...etc. It'll take reading a few books and practice, but I always prefer to learn myself.
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I would personally go with a p72 (about $220) and s3000 hondata chip ($500). Little pricey, but then you can tune it yourself, or go to an actual shop and get it done.

I'm going to buy a little netbook and station it in my car for my ecu, you can change it whenever, and instantly. Wither I want acceleration, top end, fuel economy...etc. It'll take reading a few books and practice, but I always prefer to learn myself.
Why would I spend that much money for a stock car? I've already decided on the phearable chip, I'm just working out the details. Thank you for your input though
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I plan on getting a phearable chip when I get my exterior how I like it.
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I plan on getting a phearable chip when I get my exterior how I like it.
Psh, I wish mine was as clean as yours. I don't care about looks though. I just want performance. Looks comes later! I ordered my chip last night :D
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Quick question.. Why do they disable the Knock Sensor?
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Quick question.. Why do they disable the Knock Sensor?
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Isn't it suppose to protect your engine in a way? Knocking = automatic timing change. I know when my knock sensor was bad my car ran like a geo metro till 4k+ rpm.
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Most race motor get torn apart at the end of every season and rebuild, or simply just blow so they dont need it. People on the street disable it, because it makes for 1 less variable while tuning.
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Re: Phearable chip

So I got my ECU today. I was reading the instructions and I seen something that made me nervous to hook this thing up

It says, "CHECK YOUR WIRING BEFORE PLUGGING IN THE UNIT! A common issue is to cross two wire plugs in the engine bay causing the ecu to be damaged!"

How do I check to make sure everything is good to go? Please help ASAP as I am super anxious to install this.

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So I got my ECU today. I was reading the instructions and I seen something that made me nervous to hook this thing up

It says, "CHECK YOUR WIRING BEFORE PLUGGING IN THE UNIT! A common issue is to cross two wire plugs in the engine bay causing the ecu to be damaged!"

How do I check to make sure everything is good to go? Please help ASAP as I am super anxious to install this.

Thanks!
I'm sure if this is plug and play, you should just be able to hook it up. I mean you are taking one off that works fine so I would guess that the wiring is fine. I could be wrong but that's just my input.
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will this actually show power gains without getting a tune also?
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Re: Phearable chip

Okay guys lets get this straight right now.

Whats a basemap: In a nutshell its someones guess of how much/less fuel, timing, and other variables your car will need to run.

Purpose of a basemap: Unless its a factory map, its meant in most cases to get your running so you can get it tuned.

Most maps start off as a factory map and get the parameters changed around ex: VTEC, fuel maps(running richer or leaner), Advanced the timing vs retarding timing, etc, etc.

Most maps that you'll get from sites like phearable will be based off an actual tune of some sort then messed with again, ex: reason why they ask injector size, etc.

There are individuals on sites like CL that will take a map richin up the maps add a little timing and sell it to you on a chip, IMO wrong people to get a map from.

My personal advice if you need to get a map and have run on it for a while, get it from an experienced tuner. Ex: Blake, Blacktrax, Xeron, trusted local tuners, etc. I'm currently running a map on a chipped P06 from my tuner and it runs great, I will have it tuned once i install some of my planned mods.

So based on that very very basic info you decide. Will it add power? yes and no. simple answer.
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Haha, that should settle it. I knew all of that stuff, I just always second guess myself because I can't afford to replace a motor. Maybe it's just me, or just this very case, but I see a huge difference in performance from installing my Phearable ecu. It has much more power in low rpm's and it carrys all the way to redline. It's awesome. My 2 step is a little too high, but no worries. So you would suggest getting this tuned anyways even though it's basically stock? It runs great. I smell a little gas, but I figured it was the richer map? Also been watching my oil and other vitals to make sure it's not rejecting the different ecu, lol. So far everything seems normal. It just feels like I've given my car steroids

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Haha, that should settle it. I knew all of that stuff, I just always second guess myself because I can't afford to replace a motor. Maybe it's just me, or just this very case, but I see a huge difference in performance from installing my Phearable ecu. It has much more power in low rpm's and it carrys all the way to redline. It's awesome. My 2 step is a little too high, but no worries. So you would suggest getting this tuned anyways even though it's basically stock? It runs great. I smell a little gas, but I figured it was the richer map? Also been watching my oil and other vitals to make sure it's not rejecting the different ecu, lol. So far everything seems normal. It just feels like I've given my car steroids
Thats awesome man! How much did u pay for it in total?
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Thats awesome man! How much did u pay for it in total?
$170 for the ecu shipped to my house in about 4 days. It you have VTEC it will be right around $195. I also had to buy some extra bolts because you have to rigg it down. It is shorter than the stock one with different mounting areas (if you get the same thing I did). 25mm long bolts are what I used. Just take a stock bolt in and ask them to match the threading. Also make sure to set your 2 step (optional) down a little more than you really want as it seems to go a little higher than requested. If I remember correctly, they are located in Florida as well, so you might be able to do better than I did.
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