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Ground up with a decent budget

My biggest concern is making a ride I am happy with. I don't care how. I've got a 93' h23a1 that ran like **** until I figured out all my oil leaks wiring issues etc. now it sits, not running, in my driveway. I've got a budget total of 10K and I'm looking to spend about 5-8 on motor and 2-4 on aesthetics. I would like to know how to put the most RELIABLE power and or handling to the ground with that budget. ( I don't want things breaking every time I get on it). I'm new, very new. This is my first real car project and I am willing to go through the headaches to learn I just don't want to blow my wad on crap. Parts list? Advice? Flamers to laugh at? I don't REALLY have a specific goal other than making it fun as ****.
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Re: Ground up with a decent budget

Did I say something wrong?
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Re: Ground up with a decent budget

you want more fun
h22a swap
drop it on some decent coilovers
nice rims
accord lips and skirts
some jdm/edm goodies
94/96 interior conversion (console,gauges ect...)
energy suspension bushings all around
after that if you still aint satisfied its time to hop on the boost train!
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Re: Ground up with a decent budget

I'd prefer not to swap but I would like to boost in the h23. I know enough to say that takes building internals a good bit. Where should I start there?
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Re: Ground up with a decent budget

I think you have the best opening post ever.

Now, 1st things first. The BEST advice I can gove is to peruse through the Member's ride's section for ideas, also the DIY section will save you some money/headaches.

My personal route would be as stated...
swap (I'd go H23 vtec bluetop)
lip kit
GOOD suspension (koni yellows and GC tends to be popular here)
any intake/K&N filter
Hytech replica header at the LEAST (no ebay,Greddy, DC sports...no power there)
Magnaflow high flow cat
WS2 exhaust if you have the cash, or if you can find a twin loop muffler and have a shop do some piping...a lil cheaper way to go

some cheaper things you can do if you scour craigslist or junkyards
94-93 console conversion
5th gen glass sunroof
accord rear lip
vtec caliper swap
if you want...5th gen 5 lug swap
OEM EL gauge swap.

All of these should easily fit in that budget, make it faster, more reliable, and fun to drive...as well as look decent.


The only reason I say go with a swap and not turbo is because even with that budget, I think with RELIABILTY being one big thing you mentioned, it would be more worthwhile putting that money into a more reliable from the factory engine, with lower miles, that'll still give you some decent power numbers. Sure, you can make a turbo set up reliable with that cash...but unless you REALLY want all that power, and want to have to worry about all the extras (building the internals, maintenance, things breaking down the line) I think a swap is a better route. To be honest if you set aside the whole 10k for just the turbo set-up alone I would say different lol.
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Re: Ground up with a decent budget

build the h23 to the balls and boost that biitch!
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Re: Ground up with a decent budget

Power is my biggest factor. Everything else just kind of floats around. I think I mentioned I'm willing to do all the work I need to do on the internals if decide to expand my budget later. and if a loose the whole pretty factor of the car can i make it rally-ish? (I live in oklahoma, lots of back-dirt-road fun)
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i would advise against "back dirt road fun" in a high hp fwd "rally" car,preludes are deff road cars and designed for spirited road driving. Its your car do what you will so ill give a lil input if you want lots of power, build the snot out of the H23 you have they are tq monsters! you will need to resleeve,get forged internals,lower your comp ratio,P&P head,cams and valve train,a good IM and throttle body,all quality and proper turbo components and have some machine work done to have a dependable high hp high boost H series engine. If you want decent power do the H23 blue top swap you get H23 low end and H22 top end and spend the rest on handling and making her pretty. 10k is alot of money and if your smart you can have a SICK CAR!!!!! it all depends on how your gonna use the car and what you want from it
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Re: Ground up with a decent budget

Alright, rally is out then. You make a good point. I've got a buddy that just came across some shelled out RWD car that we are going to play with anyway. I think I'll get everything started and just post new threads for specifics. Although if I do go with the swap 23/22 swap (I think I want to) What do I need to build it RIGHT?

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p.s. Thank you for your help everyone. Most forums I've tried to get advice from are a bunch of dicks.
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Re: Ground up with a decent budget

building it right is all relative to what you want..do you want a drag strip king or a autocross car or do you want all show no go or do you want a good mix of good clean looking with some decent power and handle's well on the road?
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Re: Ground up with a decent budget

10k is plenty to have a nice fun ride man as for your opening i agree very very realistic the idea of boost to any one that just starts is pretty common but once in the passenger seat of something with boost youll just wanna be in the driver seat of something with boost. that being said man h22 is deff the way to go if your trying to get cheap decent power for our cars. theres endless options of lip kits, headlights, and taillight mods, to keep preludes stylish and unique, but if you really want man with 10k boost could deffinitly be in the options for you. do your research and dont be afraid to give questions. ppl are pretty chill here and wish you the best luck with your ludethe h23/22 is just something to be unique about. just check out an h22 swap man heres a good list for a nice lil ride h22a, innovative motor mounts 75a, phearable.net tuned p28 ecu, stage 2 or 3 clutch (competition clutch, exedy, etc.) and possibly timing belt and water pump to put in while the motors out. transmission is optional since all our trannys will bolt up and all of that will run you roughly around 1600$ not trying to alter your plans already but just showing you the possible route of the good ol h22 (the motor preludes want) :) good luck and keep with the lude love! oh yea btw keep it mean clean and ummm oh yea! jdm yo ;)
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Re: Ground up with a decent budget

clean up engine bay, do swap, beef up internal moving parts (ask 4 specifics), change nasty 93 carpet, check for rust (EVERYWHERE!), beef up brakes, smaller steering wheel, shampoo seats, throttle body, headers, cold air intake, K&N airfilter, tuck wires (optional), lightweight flywheel, beef up clutch, short throw shifter (for manual tran), prettier radiator, rims 16-17-MAX 18, coilovers, sway bar (front,back,top,bottom), "tein" bushings and strut mounts, power folding mirrors, blue gauges, 94 octane!, exhaust, high flow cat, port polishing is big, and yes everything forged, hid headlights, google lip kits for one u like, when u got everything done, then at the end of it all, paint it...
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Re: Ground up with a decent budget

If you have that much $$ dedicated to your car, I'd say go all out with the engine, and worry about cosmetics later. Have you ever heard of Laskey Racing? You should take a look.. They'll fully build you a high-strength block for around $3500 that's virtually bulletproof. You can get the head taken care of for about $2000 with a good valvetrain and a decent P&P job. Look into a good turbo like a GT35R and get an LSD for the tranny, and you'll be pushing over 500whp with a good tune, with an engine that could easily handle 800HP+.

You can get a really good suspension setup for $800-$1200, and once you're at that point, nobody will give a damn what the car looks like cuz you'll be kicking the sh!t out of everyone. From there, making it look good isn't expensive and can come in pieces, unless you're wanting to get the whole thing a good paint job. Otherwise, replacing trim pieces and going through the DIY section here on painting a lot of that will keep your car lookin cherry.
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