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Help starting car... (UPDATED!!!!))

A while back i was driving down the highway and my car just died...

I wasnt speeding or anything. I pulled over and thought maybe it was hot..well i let it cool down and tried to start it and well nothing...it just made this weignnnin sounds like the starter was turing but wasnt engagin..nothing was turning over...like the starter wasnt even touching the fly wheel to start..it was just weignnnin...


soo i tried to get a new started and welll that wasnt the problem... it still did the same thing ...just a weinnn...

I check the fuse under the dash...starter signal i belive and it was fine...any ideas of what it could be..ill post up a vid of what id did when it did run and then when it didnt...

also i belive the o2 sensor was about to go out. due to the bogging out of any rpm highr than 4k..and somtimes not starting..

any help connecting those two would be appreceated..

thanks in advance

Edit--- Its a 1993 honda prelude si. h23 5 speed w about 145k.
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Re: Help starting car...

UPDATE!...

Here are some vids of what its doing

The first one should be of what it did..when it did run..

Right at 4k in first gear..the car almost sounds like a two step...like revs up and down reall quick... id does it through all the gears right at 4k...



Im pretty sure whats making it bogg out is the o2 sensor...but any advice is a plus...the second one is what it does when we try to start it..

Its like the starter isnt engaging the flywheel?

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Re: Help starting car...

The FINAL "problem starting engine" thread!!!!!
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Re: Help starting car...

I knew this was comming...in facT*** i almost put a link up of it my self...ive looked at this numorus times...

Batts good...

Starters good...

Compressions fine...

Timings fine...

Full tank of gass...
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Re: Help starting car...

Talked to some people at honda...said somthing about the starter relay??
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Re: Help starting car...

have you checked the ignition control module?, or anything spark involved, dist/coil?

or fuel involved?

That thread states the FIRST thing you should do is check for fuel and spark...you can always find out what you are missing, then narrow it down from there. Not sure why you wasted time just replacing a starter without testing....

distributor, coil, igniter, main relay, fuel pump, ecu....those are the main ones I would check.

also, why would you think starter when it died while you were driving? Sounds to me like fuel delivery or spark issue, like I said.

:edit: Also...can you push start it?
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Re: Help starting car...

Would that keep the starter from engaging?

I may be wrong but im leaning strongly on some electrical problems between the key, clutch, or starter..

ill check into it though thanks!!
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Re: Help starting car...

I dont think that would cause the starter not to engage, but I'm not thinking it's the starter. Yeah, in that video it did sound kind of strange, but my first thought is to find out what caused the original problem of shutting off while running...doesnt seem like a starter would cause that, but some things that WOULD would also cause the no start issue.

But the ignition switch is pretty simple to test, its possible there is a short in that and it shorted and caused the shut down, then no start. Also, the clutch switch is pretty easy to test, but it's trying to start so I'm not sure if that would have anything to do with it.
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Re: Help starting car...

I checked the clutch sensor. Thats fine. I suppose my next step would be to test for spark and look at the ditributor...i dont really understand why that wouldnt allow the car to start though..i mean it should at least turn over then not start..but its not
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Re: Help starting car...

As of right now im leaning to the o2 sensor..ive tried a thousand things today... ive been outside trying to get this car to start all day...since about 9 am...well im breaking down and gettn a new one tom.

I told my neighbor who's inclined in mechanics...not a mechanic but knows his stuff...what was going on before and he said that the o2 sensor can deffinatly leave you sitting on the side of the road. and well without a car...

Somthing like..if it went out..the car could not be getting the right amount of gas for anything to work.

Well ima try that...because everything else seems fine...

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Re: Help starting car...

That very well could be true. The o2 sensor could be telling the ecu to add too much or too little fuel causing the whole deally to shut off.

That said, to answer you about the distributor stuff, it will cause it to do like your video showed. It will attempt to crank, but won't start at all. Just a "weeweewee" deal. I actually had my wifes f22 have a coil go out, same deal, left her stranded, wouldn't start. Tried to crank but that was it. My accord f22 ignitor went out. Same deal. If there is no spark it's just not gonna do anything past the initial cranking.

If you have a manual on the car you can find a simple test with a meter to test both the coil and igniter, I think I might have even posted it somewhere on here. Just a resistance test.
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Re: Help starting car...

Yeah i need to look into that...

My first step right now is the o2 sensor though...
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Re: Help starting car...

Not to scare you or anything, but i recently bought a lude that needs a new timing belt and when i tried starting it thats exactly what it sounded like
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Re: Help starting car...

I would bet money on your fly wheel being cracked around the blots and its just turning the fly wheel around the bolts. by the vid you posted it sounds like the starter is engageing. try taking off you fly wheel cover plate on the bottom of the engine and with a pry bar check for exsessive play at the fly wheel.
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sounds like timming belt,
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Re: Help starting car...

did you ever figure out what was wrong? I have the exact same problem and same way it happened.
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