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To delete or not to delete? Power steering

I was just wondering what everyones thoughts are on this. Is it worth the cleaner bay for no ps or should I keep it in there. All thoughts on this are welcome.
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Re: To delete or not to delete? Power steering

I dont have my belt on, and its not bad at all, you just have to get used to parking, once you get it down though it doesnt feel any different to me. You can feel the road a lot better.
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Re: To delete or not to delete? Power steering

I had a 89 crx and it wasn't bad at all so I'm no stranger to no ps it's just the difference between a manual rack and ps rack
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Re: To delete or not to delete? Power steering

Its one thing if your doing it for weight reasons for on the track, but if its just for "looks" or a "cleaner" engine bay.....that's just plain stupid. Do a nice wire tuck or something instead. Keep the PS
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Its one thing if your doing it for weight reasons for on the track, but if its just for "looks" or a "cleaner" engine bay.....that's just plain stupid. Do a nice wire tuck or something instead. Keep the PS
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Its one thing if your doing it for weight reasons for on the track, but if its just for "looks" or a "cleaner" engine bay.....that's just plain stupid. Do a nice wire tuck or something instead. Keep the PS
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Re: To delete or not to delete? Power steering

Take it out. It's all up to you lol
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Re: To delete or not to delete? Power steering

i gota 95 civic with no ps which i drove for 3 years before i got the lude. I was so ****ing happy to have a car with power steering i still drive the civic and every time i gota turn while at a stop or going really slow i cuss. i say keep it if your not going turbo.
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Re: To delete or not to delete? Power steering

delete it. its pointless and its just as easy to drive without it. i dont have any problems whatsoever without it. unless you like to turn your wheel while the car is not moving (there is absolutely no reason to do this) then keep it. Otherwise, if you know how to drive, then remove it.
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Re: To delete or not to delete? Power steering

If the car has power steering, keep it. Manual and power racks are two different beasts.
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Re: To delete or not to delete? Power steering

Lol. Whoever said "just do a nice tuck and keep it" that is a hardcore oxy-moronic statement. You can't have a tucked car with PS. **** you can't have a legit tucked car with ABS. Wire tucking is a mastery and it takes serious skill to execute successfully. Just hiding wires helps, but it's not tucked if you have PS,ABS,CC, or AC in sight. I personally say remove it. In a week you will be used to it. It is nothing like driving a civic or a CRX without it though. With those cars you don't even realize it doesn't have PS. With the lude you will realize it, but it's not like "OMFG SO HARD TO TURNNN!!!!". As long as the car is moving more than 2mph, you should be able to turn the wheel with one hand. If it is too hard to move, you can get a smaller wheel so instead of using your shoulder muscles, you will use your bicep. The wheel will be harder to turn with a smaller wheel, but because you are using your bicep muscles, which should be stronger than your shoulder muscles, you will find it a little easier. I have been driving no PS for the past 6 months and I love it. You can feel everything, it's not that generic feeling you get when driving a car with PS.
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Lol. Whoever said "just do a nice tuck and keep it" that is a hardcore oxy-moronic statement. You can't have a tucked car with PS. **** you can't have a legit tucked car with ABS. Wire tucking is a mastery and it takes serious skill to execute successfully. Just hiding wires helps, but it's not tucked if you have PS,ABS,CC, or AC in sight.
It really isnt hard, your probably just a little slow. And he said wire tuck. Not full enginebay tuck.
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Re: To delete or not to delete? Power steering

Lol. This is true, it's not hard to wire tuck. Just time consuming. Also, good luck getting all of the PS lines out with the Engine in the car :P There is one bracket that is bolted down and it is directly underneath the IM, I couldn't get up in there with a wrench or ratchet to break it loose, so I wasn't able to remove all of the lines from the car. It is MUCH easier to do it without the engine in the car
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Re: To delete or not to delete? Power steering

I think I'm gonna run it with the belt off for a few days to see how I feel about the situation lol
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Good thought. Parking = PITFA!
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It really isnt hard, your probably just a little slow. And he said wire tuck. Not full enginebay tuck.
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Re: To delete or not to delete? Power steering

Running without the belt is an entirely different feeling than driving with a looped rack. But I mean if you can handle driving the car with no belt (which is a total BITCH) then you will be fine driving with a looped rack.
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Re: To delete or not to delete? Power steering

im driving without a belt cause my PS just doesnt work. im just waitin til i have some time to take it off completely. its not bad at all
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Re: To delete or not to delete? Power steering

John, your system is evacuated. There is no PS fluid being pumped, there is a minimal amount in the rack itself, just for lubrication. You are essentially driving a looped rack.
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delete it. its pointless and its just as easy to drive without it. i dont have any problems whatsoever without it. unless you like to turn your wheel while the car is not moving (there is absolutely no reason to do this) then keep it. Otherwise, if you know how to drive, then remove it.
i agree completely!! and yeah you can feel the road much better!!!
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Re: To delete or not to delete? Power steering

I drove my CB7 with no power steering for 3 years. It's a lighter chassis than ludes. I thought it was great cause you CAN feel the road better.

BUT, then I put PS back on...wow what a difference. It just makes driving your car more enjoyable. I mean you spend your time enjoying driving instead of having to work out just to turn. it's especially wonderful parking. I mean, the power and weight difference of the pump is a difference of maybe 10 pounds and 2-3 horses. I mean, is losing driveability worth that little increase in performance? I used to think so....then i grew up.
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Re: To delete or not to delete? Power steering

Ive been following these Ps delete threads.. Only thing holding me back from doing it is that i have seen some ppl say they have a bit of play in their steering after doing the delete.. Anybody who has done it care to comment???
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Re: To delete or not to delete? Power steering

when you are moving id say 5mph+, its easy as pie to turn the wheel. if you have to turn the wheel alot when parking, or turn the wheel when stopped...you dont know how to park.. RARELY do i have to turn the wheel when stopped.. 95% of the time its as easy to drive as having PS. i daily drive my car and still have no problems with it. again, if you do dd it and all and you dont care much about your clean bay, then leave it. i will honestly say that the amount of times i wish i had PS are so minimal they are non existant now. its like driving a standard, at first its frustrating and sucks, eventually its like second nature and you are so used to it, you learn to turn the wheel when moving and to start turing the wheel the other way before you stop backing out of the parking spot. once you learn that, its easy as pie. as for the play, you do get a LITTLE bit of play, but just like everything else, it becomes normal. i dont even notice it now.. its really nothing to worry about.

the major disadvantage of no power steering is the torque steer and bump steer. this is real and i can see it being dangerous in a way. if you are doing any kind of sprinted driving, hit a turn, and there is a bump...say a bridge or something.. you NEED to hold the wheel (not like a granny but you need to pay attention) because it will jerk the wheel. will you loose control? i dont think so but something to be aware of. it is NOT for everyone.. take the belt off and drive it (a lot, not for a day or even a week IMO)
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Re: To delete or not to delete? Power steering

^^^solid post kyle, the one down side to deleting power steering is how annoying it is to remove the hardlines that are tucked up above the rack. whoever says the steering is too hard w/o needs to work on shoulder strength and rock 205s!
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Re: To delete or not to delete? Power steering

My ? Is (thus may sound stupid) but I read that a looped rack feels different than just removing the belt. Could someone give me some insight on why and the advantages/ disadvantages of both?
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Re: To delete or not to delete? Power steering

when you just remove the belt power steering fluid is still being pushed around through all the lines, making it feel extremely difficult to steer. but when the lines are looped at the rack, the only fluid being transferred is inside the rack, which doesn't require you to shove the fluid through all the lines.

-advantages of running a looped rack? well you can delete that unsightly ps pump, fluid cooler, and all those lines traveling throughout the bay. also you get that road feel everyone raves about.
-disadvantages? removing all the ps lines that travel on the bottom of the bay aren't fun. time consuming of course to rid of all the hardlines.
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when you are moving id say 5mph+, its easy as pie to turn the wheel. if you have to turn the wheel alot when parking, or turn the wheel when stopped...you dont know how to park.. RARELY do i have to turn the wheel when stopped.. 95% of the time its as easy to drive as having PS. i daily drive my car and still have no problems with it. again, if you do dd it and all and you dont care much about your clean bay, then leave it. i will honestly say that the amount of times i wish i had PS are so minimal they are non existant now. its like driving a standard, at first its frustrating and sucks, eventually its like second nature and you are so used to it, you learn to turn the wheel when moving and to start turing the wheel the other way before you stop backing out of the parking spot. once you learn that, its easy as pie. as for the play, you do get a LITTLE bit of play, but just like everything else, it becomes normal. i dont even notice it now.. its really nothing to worry about.
I agree with you for parts of this. Like the part about it becoming second nature to you after a few months of driving with no PS. You do get used to having to put more effort into turning, even while moving.

I do want to point out the contradiction of you saying that you don't turn the wheel "alot" when parking or when stopped and then saying you turn it while moving and before you stop backing out. What about when parallel parking on a busy street or in such tight places as parking garages? I used to hate parallel parking with no PS. it's such a beeech.

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^^^solid post kyle, the one down side to deleting power steering is how annoying it is to remove the hardlines that are tucked up above the rack. whoever says the steering is too hard w/o needs to work on shoulder strength and rock 205s!
dude, no hate or flame here, but even back when i worked out 6 days a week for football i hated driving with PS. and i was benching 235+. Even rolling 205s. That's not to say i couldn't turn the wheel, but it made it very annoying when i just wanted to turn without working out.


It really does just come down to preference. I ran it with no belt for 2 1/2 years and no pump for 6+ months. There was only slight difference between the pump/no pump. no pump was a bit easier cause well obviously you didn't have to force it through the pump. I simply looped the lines from the pump into each other.

Now, 6 months into having PS i love being able to take corners more aggressively as well as having better control on the road. granted, it did take some of the feel of the road away, but at the benefit of having quicker response and more freedom of movement. being able to turn the car with one hand while also being able to shift with the other hand is probably one of the best benefits for a DD car.

but this is all just IMO
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