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Old 09-10-2010, 05:03 PM
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Intake Manifolds; EuroR vs. BlackTrax vs. Skunk2

There's a ton of info out there on the S2 IM and a decent amount on the Euro-R, but I haven't found a single review on the BlackTrax work. I'm in the process of upgrading my valvetrain and the IM seems to be the trickiest thing to get good solid info on.

Research tells me;
-The Skunk2 IM is close to pointless if I'm not gonna boost
-The EuroR is the way to go if I have the patience to move everything around and block off random things, but is $$$ (Close to $600 now, up from $500 a couple months ago)
-The BlackTrax is a modified OEM manifold that retains all the stock hookups and components, but this is all I've heard other than what's on their website.

So lets hear it!-I wanna hear your opinion on each of these, ESPECIALLY if you have personal experience with them. I'm most interested in information on the BlackTrax system since info is so hard to come by in the first place.

Also, what additional components would be worth an upgrade? Fuel rail? Injectors? Valves? TB?


For the record, I'll be running Skunk2 Pro2 Cams/retainers/springs/gears, in addition to the typical air intake and full exhaust setup. I'd also like to know what kinda valvetrain you're running, how it feels compared to stock, how you like it, and what you'd do differently (if anything!).
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Re: Intake Manifolds; EuroR vs. BlackTrax vs. Skunk2

Hit up Nataly at Blacktrax directly, she'll be able to give you the most amount of info on comparisons. They ran there own stage 3 ported mani on their all motor 5th gen, that thing was a beast. I'm sure you checked out the their dyno gains on the website too.
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Hit up Nataly at Blacktrax directly, she'll be able to give you the most amount of info on comparisons. They ran there own stage 3 ported mani on their all motor 5th gen, that thing was a beast. I'm sure you checked out the their dyno gains on the website too.
Indeed I did. Stage 3 is the way I'll go if I become convinced that BlackTrax is the superior to the EuroR.
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Re: Intake Manifolds; EuroR vs. BlackTrax vs. Skunk2

Yea i actually haven't seen any dyno comparisons of the two manis directly but judging by individual dynos the Euro-R makes a bit more power. But then again that's from different motors with different mods.
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$600 for a euro r? youre nuts man
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Re: Intake Manifolds; EuroR vs. BlackTrax vs. Skunk2

I had the s2 IM on my last car and to be honest I don't think it did much. If you aren't going turbo then stay away from it. I am interested on info for blacktrax too. Heck I have an extra stock IM I could send to them
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Hit up Nataly at Blacktrax directly, she'll be able to give you the most amount of info on comparisons. They ran there own stage 3 ported mani on their all motor 5th gen, that thing was a beast. I'm sure you checked out the their dyno gains on the website too.
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Re: Intake Manifolds; EuroR vs. BlackTrax vs. Skunk2

why is rosko racing offering for 575 +ship and the other guy 375?
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Re: Intake Manifolds; EuroR vs. BlackTrax vs. Skunk2

lindso i totally know how u feel man ive been looking at the SAME exact stuff, I think ill go with the euro r but u know ur call for urs
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And all pictures I saw of the black trax made me say no. The plates were not cut well or even to a beneficial size. Everything looked like it was done poorly in an area that mattered for finish. But, that was years ago too.
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In all honesty, It seems like BlackTrax would be a better bang for my buck, but again, that's just going off of what I can see on their website. That stage 3 produces some great gains (assuming they're not jumping the numbers) and the idea of all the sensors and stuff staying in the same place is appealing as well. With the EuroR I don't understand what benefit relocating that stuff and blocking off things has on the overall product. Can someone shed some light on that aspect of things?
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